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Old 09-09-2007, 10:32 AM
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Aray yara yay kia yara postmortem kar dia aap be army mein ho kia yah shah say ziaida shah kay wafadar ? lol bharhal ab jab kay postmortem ho gia hai tu mein shair lal haq bantay howay clues per kaam shro karta hon takay case solve ho ( shair lal haq goron nay naam kharab kar dia Sherlock Holmes kar dia asal mein yay tu pathan bhai they :P)

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Pessimistic approach, maybe?
lolz no actually i really care about these issues b/w Abdullah says ( khush rayna acha hota hai khushfahami mein rayna nehi)


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What do we have to blame the Army every time? We are the ones responsible.
oh so you are responsible for that lol. be more specific plz lol

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I hope you're not blaming the army again?
well i think author blame all governments and caz its bhushruf uncle era so of course he blame him too.

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Do you also know that the debt is now at an all time low? Yes, it's happened in the Musharraf era.
I don't know what your source is i hope not government :P anyway here some facts

Pakistan’s external debt has climbed to $36.9 billion from $33.6 billion in 1999 despite the fact the country received at least $10 billion in economic, military and development aid from the United States, over $6 billion in privatization proceeds, and a relief of $1.6 billion in loan write-offs by foreign governments over the last seven years, the experts say.

The rescheduling of Paris Club debts provided an additional relief of $1.2 to $1.5 billion annually in terms of debt service payments. Is the government’s debt management policy as sound and successful as it claims it is, or a historic opportunity to restructure the country’s high debt levels has fallen victim to political expediency or a false sense of achievement, the economists question.

Even after having received such generous assistance, Pakistan’s external debt to GDP ratio is 28 per cent - slightly worse than Africa’s 26.2 per cent, which also happens to be the average for all the developing countries. The average external debt to GDP ratio of all emerging markets declined from 42.1 in 1999 to 26.2 per cent in 2006.

Pakistan received generous foreign aid as well as much higher levels of foreign direct investment (FDI) in the post-9/11 period. Remittances averaged around $4 billion a year during 2003-2006 compared to an average of $1.5 billion in the 1990s.

The government’s claim of having broken the begging bowl has also proved wrong as its share in total public and publicly-guaranteed debt has increased from 37.5 per cent to 50.2 per cent in 2006.

The economic experts have already refuted the tall claims of economic growth by the power corridors and warned that the GDP growth rate could not be maintained in the current fiscal.

“Unrealistic claims of economic growth in recent days by the power corridors have made economy’s future bleak as they, instead of taking appropriate measures to arrest the negative indicators, are only making paper-claims,” (Dr Shahid Hasan Siddiqui.)

At present, the trade deficit, current account deficit, budgetary deficits, internal and external debts and the pace of throwing away national assets through privatization is the highest in the history of Pakistan

The country’s overall external debt maintained its upward trend in 2006-07, rising by 4.35 percent or $1.1623 billion in nine months (June-March 2006-07).

“The total external debt of the Pakistan stood at $38.864 billion on March 31, 2007, up by 4.35 percent or $1.623 billion, as compared with $37.241 billion on June 30, 2006,” data released by the State Bank of Pakistan said here on Saturday.

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And this article isn't going to help build the nation. It's time to bring out the positives and show them to the people for inspiration.
well i think its helps us to realize that as nation we need to accept our failures and learn a lesson from it not just singing songs for chacha mushi

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The corrupt civillian Government run by the crooks. It's people like you who wanted Nawaz and likes out because the entire country was in trouble.
(abdullah says " agar aap baymar hon or aap ko eik doctor ke medicine say aram nehi aa rha ho tu kia aap kesi engineer say apna alag karnay ko kaho gay ? nehi na dosra doctor or teesra doc tu dear politics civilans ka kaam hai army ka kaam nehi)

Well dude open your eyes these corrupt peoples are still the part of general musalat government. i don't want nawaz, babi, bhai g or mushi i wish they all go to hell. all i want is chacha wardi landa que nehi, pension lay kar janda que nehi :P ..whole nation is suffering caz of one man obstinacy. jaan chor yar. b.w when you examine the figures for corruption by armed forces personnel you discover the latter are no better than officials from the civilian cadres. The only difference between the two is the fact that corruption by civilians is exposed and made public, but corruption involving members of the armed forces is kept under wraps.

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What decisions? Do you go out of the house after seeking permission from an Army personnel?
Mostly all decisions. Not that way but the armed forces are involved in the abductions of civilians from their houses, offices and bus stop. figures are about 115 people who have been abducted since 2001 by the military government. These people have been in government’s custody without their crimes being revealed to them. Not only religious and educated civilians have been illegally abducted but also military men could not escape the repercussions of the current military regime’s policy of being US close ally on rooting out terrorism. and some shameful peoples are supporting him i called them rag dolls
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Excuse me? They are TERRORISTS! Does that say anything to you? Have you heard of the suicide bomb blasts and abduction of innocent civillians? I'm sure you have. It's just that you don't consider them worthy to be mentioned in your article.
excuse u :P ... Are they are terrorists ? does any one of them is charge by any court in Pakistan ?mushi says and u accept it great.

Constitution says in Article 10 (1), “No person who is arrested shall be detained in custody without being informed, as soon as may be, of the grounds for such arrest, nor shall he be denied the right to consult and be defended by a legal practitioner of his choice.”

Whereas in Article 10 (2), it says, “Every person who is arrested and detained in custody shall be produced before a magistrate within a period of twenty-four hours of such arrest, excluding the time necessary for the journey from the place of arrest to the court of the nearest magistrate, and no such person shall be detained in custody beyond the said period without the authority of a magistrate.”

Article 9: “No person shall be deprived of life and liberty save in accordance with law.”

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That does it for me. He was a traitor at best and we're glad that he's dead.
well few months ago i really believe that too but after knowing about him iam so sorry for thatNawab Akbar Bugti is the person who voted for the creation of Pakistan before its eventual founding in 1947. he can't be a traitor

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National interest; I hope you're aware of the global scenario as well.
lolz come on stop bullshitting the nation its bushi interest.Khalid Khawaja (ex-ISI personnel ) says Hum apnau ko martay hain, amricano say paisay laitay hain aur ginti poori kartay hain (we take money from Americans to kill our own people. We just count the numbers),

Apparently it’s true that the number of people captured, as claimed by the President in his book, “In the Line of Fire,” are actually those who have been randomly kidnapped in a mysterious way and are kept in detention for a year or so and then released without any charges proved against them, he said. very shameful act

“We have captured 672 and handed over 369 to the US. We have earned bounties totaling millions of dollars,” says President Musharaff at the back cover of his book. (he is a bounty hunter lol i love the movie )

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Bullshit, I say to that. The Army is protecting those resources from being attacked by the same terrorists whom you consider innocent civilians. The one's who've previously attacked pipelines with rocket launchers and whatnot!
lol so all balochi ppls are terrorist thats great. yara root cause ka pata karo na like ur bushi says:P why they are attacking what kinda demands they have. army is doing the same mistake they did in 1971.

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Haha! But I thought you opposed military action against the terrorists using these issues to their own advantage?
lol so ur wrong thx god

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How moronic of you to say that. The minorities are part of Pakistan and every citizen regardless of race, creed, or culture respects each other. I studied in a catholic school for 10 years situated in the heart of Pakistan so based on my experience, the above is totially not true.
well from this point i am disagree with author (yay be bhalla koi baat howi)

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What part of Pakistan are you talking about? The situation here is far and I mean FAR better than India.
what part ?dude all over Pakistan & don't compare it with India they don't have any dicdator :P second yaaaaak Indians

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So has the quality of life. Pakistan today is 10x better than it used to be in the 1990's.
actually 3rd class quality of life :P ..your 10x figures are actually -10x :P

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How about educational reforms?
hmm they did some work but not enough lets c according to a report 3/4 pakistani children are living far from their families wanderering in groups from them 76 % of childrens are uneducated 55% of them have continuous throat and nose irritation thats why they alway feel temperature. 65% of them have skin irritating & coughs and about 82% of them are sniffing glue, petrol and thinner. i dont have accurate figures but they are also efffected with Hepatitis & Aids.

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Free education?
yeah good step but again they have to monitor it. About 15,000 ghost' are in Sindh

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Free healthcare?
lolz its a joke no sign of that dear. from where u get these news lolz

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Free books?
good step but only happened in Punjab (Sindh mein tu barish mein kharab hogaye )

Local governments?
good step but non political local governments elections is not a good idea

You need to do a lot of research my friend.
dude i must say don't be a rag doll use your brain may Allah G bless U amen

What is that you agree with?
i think u know that now
case closed ...peace out
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