Aam Pakistani Vs Mr. President

criminallz · #1 (**permalink**) 09-02-2007, 01:12 AM

In a program President Musharaf was asked a question "aa'inda kitnay aane waley saalon main Pakistan main log kushi key liye tarastey rahenge? development kab increase hogi? gharibi barh gaye hai, kab ghatey gi? rural areas bilkul developed nahin hain, un ka kya hoga? aur waghera waghera.
to uss key jawab main "MR. PRESIDENT ne jawab kuch yun diya key ( exact words nahin hain)

"PAKISTAN MAIN DEVELOPMENT HO RAHI HAI, LOG KUSH HAIN, AAJ KAL TO VILLAGES MAIN BHI "LUX" SOAP USE HO RAHA HAI, VILLAGES MAIN BHI BIKES WAGERA CHAL RAHE HAIN, ELECTRICAL GOODS BHI BOHAT BIK RAHE HAIN, VILLAGES MAIN BHI REFRIGERATOR WAGHERA LIYE JA RAHE HAIN. (aur bhi boaht kuch kaha tha, itna jhoot muje yaad nahin raha)

Ab isi key jawab main agar koi aam PAKISTANI (YANI KEY MAIN) jawab de to woh kuch yeh hoga.

AAM PAKISTANI: kaisi development ho rahi hai, yeh development ho rahi hai key ameer ameer hota ja raha hai aur ghareeb bechara ghareeb.
LUX SOAP use karney se koi developed nahin ho jata hai. zahir hi si baat hai ke log BATH lein gey, ab bath lene key liye HAARI SOAP ya phir GAA'YE (cow) soap to use karne se rahe.
rahi baat electrical goods waghera ki to yeh sab landlords hi key paas mil saktey hain. bikes agar mil bhi gayeen to kisi aisey shaks key paas milein gi jo khoon paseeney ki kamai se li ho...

Mr. Musharaf se main eik aur sawal karna chaahoon gi key kiya aap 4000 Rs main poora month guzara kar lain gey? asl zindagi to unhon ne dekhi nahin hey.

yeh the marey jawabat.
aur haan yeh especially SINDH ka haal bayan kiya hia.
yeh eik SINDH ki larki keh rahi hai.

Endurer · #2 (**permalink**) 09-02-2007, 02:52 AM

Frankly I don't know k Sindh mein kiya ho raha hai per is waqt Punjab mein halaat kahien behter hien or kahien kharab. Jin areas mein development howe hai unko dekh ker aam aadmi ko aisa lagta hai k woh mazed ghareb ho geya hai. Aisa kehna ghalat hoga k inflation ka kissi per koi assar nahi howa; howa hai or bohat burri tarha howa hai.

Jahan tak aik aam admi ka sawal hai to frankly log chahte hien k unhien gher bethe bethaye welfare mille woh b lakhon rs mein baghair koi kaam kiye. Government ka kaam resources provide kerna hai, paise bantana nahi. Yahan jo log yeh shikayat kerte hien k unhien mehnat k badle kam milta hai to yakeen janen, inke pass chahe MA ya MSC ki degrees kyun na hoon, inhien aik application tak likhna nahi aati.

Yahan education system mein reforms ki zarorat hai. Books per ratta laga kar koi intellectual nahi ban jata.. apki apni qabiliat zarori hoti hai.

Yeh lux soap ki tarha Musharraf ney aik baar TVs k aney ka bhi kaha tha. Yeh pata nahi kyun inhien taraqi ki nishani lagta hai. Beher haal mein yeh samjhta hoon k aik nassal ko qurbani deni hogi pichle 60 saal ki dirt saaf kerne k lie.. tab hi sustainable growth ho sake gi or aik aam admi ko iske nataij nazar ayen gey.

criminallz · #3 (**permalink**) 09-02-2007, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Endurer

Frankly I don't know k Sindh mein kiya ho raha hai per is waqt Punjab mein halaat kahien behter hien or kahien kharab. Jin areas mein development howe hai unko dekh ker aam aadmi ko aisa lagta hai k woh mazed ghareb ho geya hai. Aisa kehna ghalat hoga k inflation ka kissi per koi assar nahi howa; howa hai or bohat burri tarha howa hai.

Jahan tak aik aam admi ka sawal hai to frankly log chahte hien k unhien gher bethe bethaye welfare mille woh b lakhon rs mein baghair koi kaam kiye. Government ka kaam resources provide kerna hai, paise bantana nahi. Yahan jo log yeh shikayat kerte hien k unhien mehnat k badle kam milta hai to yakeen janen, inke pass chahe MA ya MSC ki degrees kyun na hoon, inhien aik application tak likhna nahi aati.

Yahan education system mein reforms ki zarorat hai. Books per ratta laga kar koi intellectual nahi ban jata.. apki apni qabiliat zarori hoti hai.

Yeh lux soap ki tarha Musharraf ney aik baar TVs k aney ka bhi kaha tha. Yeh pata nahi kyun inhien taraqi ki nishani lagta hai. Beher haal mein yeh samjhta hoon k aik nassal ko qurbani deni hogi pichle 60 saal ki dirt saaf kerne k lie.. tab hi sustainable growth ho sake gi or aik aam admi ko iske nataij nazar ayen gey.

lekin jo log villages ya rural areas main hain woh kar bhi kiya saktey hain becharey, unko to money (imdad) hi ki zarrorat hai. woh khud jitni mehnat kartey hain un ko utni kamai nahin milti.
yes i know that Punjab key villages main bohat development hiu hai, I had watched a documentary on PTV on the villages of Punjab, achi khasi taraqi hui hai, Punjab main jitni halat sudhri hai uss se bohat ziyada halat Sindh ki buri hai. Development sirf eik hisey ke behter ho janey se nahin hogi, jab tak Mr. president sab provinces key baarey main nahin sochtey kuch bhi nahin hoga. yeh to discrimination kehlai gi.

manni9 · #4 (**permalink**) 09-02-2007, 07:29 PM

sindh say bhi buri halaat tou balochistan ki hea lekin uss ke liye kabhi kisi nay kuch nahi kiya, reson saaf zahir hea, yeh loog sirf wahen kaam kerte hain jahan ka vote bank strong ho.
Inn loogon ko na panjab say mohabat hea aur na hi sindh say nafrat. Hum hi pagal hain jo aapas main larte rehte hain, aaj say nahi 60 years say.

AaDi · #5 (**permalink**) 09-03-2007, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by criminallz

[...] jab tak Mr. president sab provinces key baarey main nahin sochtey kuch bhi nahin hoga. yeh to discrimination kehlai gi [...]

Yeh discrimination nah ho .. isi liye provinces ki main districts aur tehselein (local governments) banai gai hain .. Mr. President is the President of Pakistan, not a President of just Sindh or just Punjab. You got to understand he does not make decisions ke head pump kahan lagay ga aur bijli ke khambay kahan laganay hain!!! This is upto the local governments to decide. Local governments are paid every year!

Thanks for mentioning Balochistan as well. The reason I can only make out is that most of the areas in NWFP, Balochistan and Sindh are run by tribes, all the money that is given to develop those areas end up in getting Land Cruisers, etc.

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LUX SOAP use karney se koi developed nahin ho jata hai. zahir hi si baat hai ke log BATH lein gey, ab bath lene key liye HAARI SOAP ya phir GAA'YE (cow) soap to use karne se rahe.

Musharraf is a blunt person, thats what I like about him. What he is trying to say is that now people can afford to buy Lux Soap. And yes, there was a time when people could not even imagine to buy that Harri Soap or ga'aye soap!

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rahi baat electrical goods waghera ki to yeh sab landlords hi key paas mil saktey hain. bikes agar mil bhi gayeen to kisi aisey shaks key paas milein gi jo khoon paseeney ki kamai se li ho...

Her insaan her cheez khoon paseene ki kamai se he laite hai (unless ur parents are deadly rich)

I think one thing you should understand, Pakistan has done alot much in last 5 years, itna pichle 15 salon main nahi hoa .. Our Karachi Stock Exchange has broken records of the whole sub-continent. If you are qualified and well-education, you cannot be jobless (unless you are a lazy ass). Recently (thanks to Quiet Whisper), Google and Dell are moving in Pakistan. These companies are market-movers. There is no way they would come in a country which is under-developed. If they can see some in Pakistan, I can see somethin Pakistan, you would get you eye-sight checked if you can't figure it out by now!!! There have been five Mill openings in the first quarter of the year, one I remember was setup somewhere in Northern area. I remember atleast 5 under-passes have been constructed in Karachi (part of Sindh, you know). And then there are ideas flying around for another port and an improved railway infra-structure. (Oh btw, talking bout railways, the one we are using is the one made by British, 100 years ago!) Look at your cellular networks, look at their coverages, their prices. I've been told about wifi-networks being laid out in all parts of Pakistan, broadband is being offered as well. What else do you want!? You got to remember, this aint a Indian Movie, where a single person changes the way whole nation looks in two hours time, this is a reality show, things take time and hard-work is required to be done by 'everyone'.

Yes, I agree ke halaat neche darjay main behtar nahi hain .. per for God Sake, you cant blame the President for that. Its those people that we vote every year, who are supposed to look after our districts, those people are to be blamed!!!

hakhan · #6 (**permalink**) 09-04-2007, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by AaDi

Yeh discrimination nah ho .. isi liye provinces ki main districts aur tehselein (local governments) banai gai hain .. Mr. President is the President of Pakistan, not a President of just Sindh or just Punjab. You got to understand he does not make decisions ke head pump kahan lagay ga aur bijli ke khambay kahan laganay hain!!! This is upto the local governments to decide. Local governments are paid every year!

Thanks for mentioning Balochistan as well. The reason I can only make out is that most of the areas in NWFP, Balochistan and Sindh are run by tribes, all the money that is given to develop those areas end up in getting Land Cruisers, etc.

Musharraf is a blunt person, thats what I like about him. What he is trying to say is that now people can afford to buy Lux Soap. And yes, there was a time when people could not even imagine to buy that Harri Soap or ga'aye soap!

Her insaan her cheez khoon paseene ki kamai se he laite hai (unless ur parents are deadly rich)

I think one thing you should understand, Pakistan has done alot much in last 5 years, itna pichle 15 salon main nahi hoa .. Our Karachi Stock Exchange has broken records of the whole sub-continent. If you are qualified and well-education, you cannot be jobless (unless you are a lazy ass). Recently (thanks to Quiet Whisper), Google and Dell are moving in Pakistan. These companies are market-movers. There is no way they would come in a country which is under-developed. If they can see some in Pakistan, I can see somethin Pakistan, you would get you eye-sight checked if you can't figure it out by now!!! There have been five Mill openings in the first quarter of the year, one I remember was setup somewhere in Northern area. I remember atleast 5 under-passes have been constructed in Karachi (part of Sindh, you know). And then there are ideas flying around for another port and an improved railway infra-structure. (Oh btw, talking bout railways, the one we are using is the one made by British, 100 years ago!) Look at your cellular networks, look at their coverages, their prices. I've been told about wifi-networks being laid out in all parts of Pakistan, broadband is being offered as well. What else do you want!? You got to remember, this aint a Indian Movie, where a single person changes the way whole nation looks in two hours time, this is a reality show, things take time and hard-work is required to be done by 'everyone'.

Yes, I agree ke halaat neche darjay main behtar nahi hain .. per for God Sake, you cant blame the President for that. Its those people that we vote every year, who are supposed to look after our districts, those people are to be blamed!!!

issmay kuch baatain saahi bhie hain...main maanta houn laikin hur cheez president kai ziimay main nahi attie...

Endurer · #7 (**permalink**) 09-04-2007, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by criminallz

lekin jo log villages ya rural areas main hain woh kar bhi kiya saktey hain becharey, unko to money (imdad) hi ki zarrorat hai. woh khud jitni mehnat kartey hain un ko utni kamai nahin milti. yes i know that Punjab key villages main bohat development hiu hai, I had watched a documentary on PTV on the villages of Punjab, achi khasi taraqi hui hai, Punjab main jitni halat sudhri hai uss se bohat ziyada halat Sindh ki buri hai. Development sirf eik hisey ke behter ho janey se nahin hogi.

Imdaad un logon ko mil rahe hai Kafalat scheme ki sorat mein Government of Punjab ki taraf se. Yeh falahi kaam kerna Musharraf ki nahi Local or Provincial Governments ki zumedari hai. Dekha jaye to Sindh ka CM Arbab khud hi chamcha hai PML-Q or Musharraf ka. Agar koi yeh kehta hai k kissi aik province ki hukamrani hai to yeh sarasar bakwas kerta hai kyun k do baar Benazir Prime Minister reh chuke hai. Usne kuch kiya kia aaj tak? Yahan kasor Federal Government ka nahi kyun wahan imtiaz nahi hota, yeh kasor khud Provincial Government ka hai jiske Province mein aise halaat hein. Unke pass wasayel hien, kyun nahi barokaar late woh unhien?

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Originally Posted by criminallz

jab tak Mr. president sab provinces key baarey main nahin sochtey kuch bhi nahin hoga. yeh to discrimination kehlai gi.

Mujeh nahi pata k konsa province kitna budget le ker jaata hai per tax paying provinces mein Punjab oper hai or wahan utna kharach nahi hota jitna log taxes dete hien. Balochistan mein or NWFP mein kuch log to Wapda ka bill tak nahi dete to uska bojh kis per perta hai? Idher Punjab per.

Sindh, Balochistan, or NWFP mein halat aaj is lie burey hien kyun k wahan feudalism aaj bhi mojoud hai banisbat Punjab k jahan yeh log bohat kam reh gaye hien. Wahan log kyun nahi perhate likhate apne bachon ko or kyun koi hunar nahi sikhate? Yahan 100% kasoor un logon ka hai jo zulm bardasht kerte hien.

criminallz · #8 (**permalink**) 09-09-2007, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by AaDi

Yeh discrimination nah ho .. isi liye provinces ki main districts aur tehselein (local governments) banai gai hain .. Mr. President is the President of Pakistan, not a President of just Sindh or just Punjab. You got to understand he does not make decisions ke head pump kahan lagay ga aur bijli ke khambay kahan laganay hain!!! This is upto the local governments to decide. Local governments are paid every year!

i know my friend that local governments are paid every year, yeh duty poori karney key baad, Mr. president ka yeh farz nahin banta key check kiya jaye key yeh saara paisa awam key liye use horaha hai ya phir local government key tummy main. aur main yehi baat kehna chahti hoon key he is not president of Sindh, Punjab, N.W.F.P or Balochistan. heis president of Pakistan, so he must look after all the Provinces all together.

Musharraf is a blunt person, thats what I like about him. What he is trying to say is that now people can afford to buy Lux Soap. And yes, there was a time when people could not even imagine to buy that Harri Soap or ga'aye soap!

now the point again goes there key sirf lux soap use kerney say koi bhi well-to-do citizen ya phir ameer nahin ban jata. Ab agar main kahonn key eik beggar lux soap use kar raha hai to woh ameer hai ya something. try to understand the point.

Her insaan her cheez khoon paseene ki kamai se he laite hai (unless ur parents are deadly rich)

i meant to say key jo log yeh cheezain letey hain especially ghareeb(poor) un ko apni bohat saari cheezain bech kar leni parti hain. yeh sab cheezain jab Punjab key logan ko especially villagers ko free main di gaye to phir doosray provinces key logon ney kon sa kusoor kiya?
YOUR ANSWER???

I think one thing you should understand, Pakistan has done alot much in last 5 years, itna pichle 15 salon main nahi hoa .. Our Karachi Stock Exchange has broken records of the whole sub-continent. If you are qualified and well-education, you cannot be jobless (unless you are a lazy ass). Recently (thanks to Quiet Whisper), Google and Dell are moving in Pakistan. These companies are market-movers. There is no way they would come in a country which is under-developed. If they can see some in Pakistan, I can see somethin Pakistan, you would get you eye-sight checked if you can't figure it out by now!!! There have been five Mill openings in the first quarter of the year, one I remember was setup somewhere in Northern area. I remember atleast 5 under-passes have been constructed in Karachi (part of Sindh, you know). And then there are ideas flying around for another port and an improved railway infra-structure. (Oh btw, talking bout railways, the one we are using is the one made by British, 100 years ago!) Look at your cellular networks, look at their coverages, their prices. I've been told about wifi-networks being laid out in all parts of Pakistan, broadband is being offered as well. What else do you want!? You got to remember, this aint a Indian Movie, where a single person changes the way whole nation looks in two hours time, this is a reality show, things take time and hard-work is required to be done by 'everyone'.

GOOD! bohat develpoment hui hai country ki, log bhi thoray developed ho jattey to donno ka combination mulk ko taraaqi deta. RIGHT?

Yes, I agree ke halaat neche darjay main behtar nahi hain .. per for God Sake, you cant blame the President for that. Its those people that we vote every year, who are supposed to look after our districts, those people are to be blamed!!!

Meray khayal se key beech main agar votes main koi hera pheri karta hai to aap ko ya kisi aur ko bhi pata nahin chala hoga. to aap itney yaqeen sey kesey keh saktey hain key jis ko vote sab se ziyada miley wohi jeeta?

WAITING 4 YOUR ANSWER!

criminallz · #9 (**permalink**) 09-09-2007, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Endurer

Imdaad un logon ko mil rahe hai Kafalat scheme ki sorat mein Government of Punjab ki taraf se. Yeh falahi kaam kerna Musharraf ki nahi Local or Provincial Governments ki zumedari hai. Dekha jaye to Sindh ka CM Arbab khud hi chamcha hai PML-Q or Musharraf ka. Agar koi yeh kehta hai k kissi aik province ki hukamrani hai to yeh sarasar bakwas kerta hai kyun k do baar Benazir Prime Minister reh chuke hai. Usne kuch kiya kia aaj tak? Yahan kasor Federal Government ka nahi kyun wahan imtiaz nahi hota, yeh kasor khud Provincial Government ka hai jiske Province mein aise halaat hein. Unke pass wasayel hien, kyun nahi barokaar late woh unhien?

Mujeh nahi pata k konsa province kitna budget le ker jaata hai per tax paying provinces mein Punjab oper hai or wahan utna kharach nahi hota jitna log taxes dete hien. Balochistan mein or NWFP mein kuch log to Wapda ka bill tak nahi dete to uska bojh kis per perta hai? Idher Punjab per.

Sindh, Balochistan, or NWFP mein halat aaj is lie burey hien kyun k wahan feudalism aaj bhi mojoud hai banisbat Punjab k jahan yeh log bohat kam reh gaye hien. Wahan log kyun nahi perhate likhate apne bachon ko or kyun koi hunar nahi sikhate? Yahan 100% kasoor un logon ka hai jo zulm bardasht kerte hien.

i agree key fuedalism mojood hai, lekin agar Mr. president kuch karna chahtey khud ,to abi tak bohat kuch ho chuka hota.
doosri baat yeh, keh Sindh main Parhai free nahin hai, yahan pey bachon ko free education nahin dee jati, koi frre books nahin di jati, to zahir hai gareeb key bachay aur kya karien gey?

Thora arsa pehley, eik slogan tha,

"PARHA LIKHA PUNJAB HAMARA"

isi line key saath agar eik aur line jor di jaye to mera point of view shayad clear ho jaye.

PARHA LIKHA PUNJAB HAMARA.,
"JAHIL REH GAYA SINDH BECHARA".

Endurer · #10 (**permalink**) 09-09-2007, 03:35 AM

Dekho bachey yeh kaam kerna provincial governments ki zumedari hote hai, federal government ki nahi. Federal government se aise mansobe approve hone nahi jate kyun k provincial governments khud mukhtar hote hien. Ab sindh ney aisa koi mansoba shuru nahi kiya to ismein kissi dosre province ka kia kasor? Aap apne CM se contact keren ya apni provincial assembly/education ministry se k unhon ney aisa kuch kyun nahi kiya? Iska ilzam kissi dore province ya federal government per thopna sarasar hamakat hai aur kuch nahi.

AaDi · #11 (**permalink**) 09-09-2007, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by criminallz

i know my friend that local governments are paid every year, yeh duty poori karney key baad, Mr. president ka yeh farz nahin banta key check kiya jaye key yeh saara paisa awam key liye use horaha hai ya phir local government key tummy main. aur main yehi baat kehna chahti hoon key he is not president of Sindh, Punjab, N.W.F.P or Balochistan. heis president of Pakistan, so he must look after all the Provinces all together.

Mujhe abhi tak aap ki baat samajh nahi aa rahi .. paisa agar 'tummy' main ja raha hota toh yeh karachi ke under-pass nah bante!!! Yeh celluar networks, even this internet you are using right now, yeh kuch bhi nah hota! Aap please clear karein whats wrong, bator fashion yeh nah bolein ke ghurbat chai hoi hai.

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Originally Posted by criminallz

now the point again goes there key sirf lux soap use kerney say koi bhi well-to-do citizen ya phir ameer nahin ban jata. Ab agar main kahonn key eik beggar lux soap use kar raha hai to woh ameer hai ya something. try to understand the point.

Well aik time tha jab woh he 'beggar' aik sabun (lux toh dor ki baat hai) tak nahi le sakta tha .. abh agar os ke paas itne paise aa gey hain ke woh aik sabun toh le sakta hai .. kya yeh behtar nahi!!! Aur khuda ke liye, os banday ne aik misaal di hai .. abh es ka matlab yeh nahi ap ghar ghar ja ke check karein kaun kaun lux use karta hai!!

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Originally Posted by criminallz

i meant to say key jo log yeh cheezain letey hain especially ghareeb(poor) un ko apni bohat saari cheezain bech kar leni parti hain. yeh sab cheezain jab Punjab key logan ko especially villagers ko free main di gaye to phir doosray provinces key logon ney kon sa kusoor kiya?
YOUR ANSWER???

Aik toh aap ki samajh nahi aati .. Jo cheezein punjab ke villagers ko 'free' dein hain (I don't know if this actually happened) woh Punjab ki Government main dein hain .. os se President ka koi laina daina nahi, abh woh Sindh ki Government ne kyun nahi di Sindh ke villagers ko, no one can question that. As I said, her province ko budge milta hai .. agay woh kaise kharch karte hain yeh os ki Government pe hota hai.

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Originally Posted by criminallz

GOOD! bohat develpoment hui hai country ki, log bhi thoray developed ho jattey to donno ka combination mulk ko taraaqi deta. RIGHT?

Log bhi developed he hain, as I said before, jis ke paas 'talent' aur 'qualification' hai woh jobless nahi baitha hoa. Ghareeb awaam ke paas koi qualification nahi, the only way they can earn is either unhein ghar baithay paise mil jaein (its not possible cuz it aint UK or USA) or job opportunities niklein which is directly linked to our industries. As I said earlier, mills lag rahein hain, jobs opportunity niklein gi, recently aik poray city ka plan pass hoa hai .. pora new city, 70,000 job opportunities mazdoron ki shakal main, etc. I think filhaal aap apne prespective ko develop karein, thats where work is required.

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Originally Posted by criminallz

Meray khayal se key beech main agar votes main koi hera pheri karta hai to aap ko ya kisi aur ko bhi pata nahin chala hoga. to aap itney yaqeen sey kesey keh saktey hain key jis ko vote sab se ziyada miley wohi jeeta?

Jab se Musharraf aya hai Election hoye he nahi so I really don't understand what you are pointing at ..

AaDi · #12 (**permalink**) 09-09-2007, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by criminallz

[...]lekin agar Mr. president kuch karna chahtey khud ,to abi tak bohat kuch ho chuka hota.[...]

Exactly, Mr. President agar kuch karna chahte toh abhi tak kar chukay hote, Pakistan ka Media last time kab itna azad tha, yeh GEO walay abh jo karte hain aaj se 10 saal pehle karte toh pora ka pora station he ghaib hota. Stop being so negative. Compare the Pakistan of 1990 with todays. Imagine living under PPP!!!

manni9 · #13 (**permalink**) 09-10-2007, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by AaDi

Exactly, Mr. President agar kuch karna chahte toh abhi tak kar chukay hote, Pakistan ka Media last time kab itna azad tha, yeh GEO walay abh jo karte hain aaj se 10 saal pehle karte toh pora ka pora station he ghaib hota. Stop being so negative. Compare the Pakistan of 1990 with todays. Imagine living under PPP!!!

bro soory aap loogon ki baat main beech nmain aaya, please mujhe ittna zaroor bataiye ga ke media ke azad hoona and ghareebon ka bhooke peeth soona do alag alag baatain nahi?
main kisi kibhi side nahi leraha hoon buss iss point say totally agre nahi kerta.

Endurer · #14 (**permalink**) 09-10-2007, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by manni9

bro soory aap loogon ki baat main beech nmain aaya, please mujhe ittna zaroor bataiye ga ke media ke azad hoona and ghareebon ka bhooke peeth soona do alag alag baatain nahi?
main kisi kibhi side nahi leraha hoon buss iss point say totally agre nahi kerta.

Sorry mein b beech mein ageya

It's an open debate

Well manni bro agar hum log yeh samjhte hien k raat o raat kaaya palat jaye gi Pakistan ki, har Pakistani k pass apna 2 kanal ka gher hoga, millions of bucks honge account mein, fundamental rights milen gey, politicians hamare kadam chomen gey, or hum super power ban jayen gey to zahiri si baat hai k yeh GHALAT or din mein khuab dekhne wali baat hai.

Hamari bad kismati yeh rahe hai k khud to kuch kerna nahi, bas sara ilzam hakomat per daal dena hai. Mere bhai jab tak aap apni awaz nahi uthao gey, apki suney ga kon? qurbani dene ya kaam kerne se aksariyat ki jaan jati hai per tanked kerte howe koi nahi thakta.

Pichle governments mein aik PTV hota tha jis per sirf 9 bajey standard khabarnama aata tha, yaad hai? us per headline news aisi hote thi:

Wazeer-e-azam Janab bla bla ney aaj bla bla jagha ka doura kiya - wahan khitab mein unhon ney muashi taraqi per...

^ sochien agar us zamane mein PTV per koi khabar aati hai k bla bla prime minister ney yeh ghapla kiya ya aise kissi CJ ko suspend kiya to kia hashar hota? NTM yaad hai na apko? thore si azaadi thi woh (naqab posh) jisse thore dair mein hi cheen lia geya. Junoon or aise aik do bands ko BAN kia PTV se un governments ney kyun k unhon ney sitting govt per tankeed ki thi. Remember?

Aaj ka media/press dekhen aap or batayen mujeh k kitna farq hai? Mere khiyal se itna shaaur awam k andar pichle 52 salon mein nahi aya jitna ain 8 years mein ageya hai. Aisa outspoken media west mein bhi nahi hai.

Jahan tak baat kissi k bhoke hone ki hai to uska ilm b is media k tawasut se howa, agar PTV hota to kia apko kabhi pata chalta? CJ k suspend hone ki news sports se pehle aate or woh yun hote:

Izzat maab janab sadar musharraf sahab ney CJ ko corruption ki waja se suspend ker dia. Ab chalte hien khailon ki khabron ki janib.