Elections 2008

I don't want to begin this topic with another conspiracy theory or wishful thinking but things seem too good to be true right now.

On the positive side, we no longer have to see PML-Q forming a Government in Pakistan. Their party president Chauhdry Shujat lost, Pervez Elahi (former CM Punjab and a candidate for premiership) lost in two NAs where he had a stronghold, Sheikh Rashed, Sher Afghan Khan Niazi, Awais Leghari, Wasi Zafar all lost miserably.

BUT - what do we have here today? Yes, the tried, tested, and failed crop of politicians who have earned a reputation of being corrupt. Lets break the results down a bit:

PML-N: This party brought us at the brink of being titled as a failed state. They attacked the Supreme Court of Pakistan during their rule and pushed the economy further down to extinction level. The only so-called achievements that I can think of during their rule are Nuke tests and a Motorway.

PPP: This party deserves to be listed next to the definition of corruption in the dictionary. Personally, I think of them as sympathy seeker, people who do politics on (their own) dead bodies and capitalize on whatever the outcome it brings. Can they do things differently albeit for the well being of our country this time? I don't think so.

MQM: They are (IMO) terrorists.

ANP: Never heard of this party before until recently. They happen to be secular pashtuns. Kind of like an oxymoron, isn't it?

MMA: They too are no where to be seen in the picture this time.

All in all, this hung parliament seems too good to be true. I see it as just another experiment on behalf of Musharraf. And yes, the results that we have at hand today are to be met with skepticism; there's more to it than meets the eye.

MQM: They are (IMO) terrorists.

Kya matlab??

^^^^^^^same question...MQM...terrorist???

I just hate em ALL .. oh and my two cents for MQM's leader!!

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man they all suck
my goodness
plus they didn't even do any speeches and people have started voting for them
no party or a candidate spent any thing in advertisements or anything
i don't even know who are the candidates except corrupted nawaz and a so-so imran khan
even though imran khan is a gud person and a gud choice but he will lead us into such a depression gosh he wud ruin the country because he is too nice
well the question is who the hell can lead us?
I would go for Musharraf
but, if not him I don't know who would i go for but I want a president in PAKISTAN who we would give all the power in the world, because paki people are living for short term not long term
paki people want changes right now
we would need someone who is given all the power but instead of keeping dat power he gives it to paki people
dat way da world will see us as a strong nation with democratic ideals
but at the same time it will be a one man show
and dat is needed
we can not be a democracy rit now
cuz just look at U.S, they have been debating welfare for last 60 years, abortion for last 40 years, vietnam war since it started, iraq war since it started and many other things
and i can relate it all to an example
for example: 9-11, after it hit America american people and congress didn't sit down and debate upon president bush's plan
dey just passed it
that was a panic mode panic act, which anyone would do
but now Americans are getting their senses back and choosing obama because he will bring the boys back in 2009
so u see, very recently america turned away from democracy
democracy works best only when people have time, and a lottttttt of time

PARHO GAI LIKHO GAI TU BANOO GAI KHARAAB...KHAILOO GAI KOODO GAI TU BANOO GAI NAWAAB...
dat is just stupid and annoys me

Endure bro ye kursi ki race hai aise aap ya hum nahi samaj saktey
ye khuwab tu buhat unchey dekhatey hain
lakin aaj tak kisi khuwab ko tabeer ka sharf hasil nahi howa...

wase meri khuhaish hai k ek dafa pakistan ki awam phir ek hi plate form par ekhati ho jaye.
hum ne sirf tareeq main phara hai ya apne buzurgo se suna hai...

Akhair humen bhi tu ye muqa milna chahey k hum sab ko ek jaga dekhne
na nafsa nafsi ka aalam ho
na koi larai ho
balke
bhai chara ho
aaman o sukon ho
muhabat ho
ek dusre k liya dard ho

kash

kash

kash phir hum sab phir se ek hi plate form par kharey ho saken

or zindagi ki race main itne agey nikal jayen k

puri dunya par ager kisi chez ka saya ho tu

wo ho parcham-e-islam (inshallah)

hum bhi koshish kar rahe hain aap sab bhi kushish kare
is k liya zarori nahi k aap koi tanzeem banayen

balke sirf or sirf apne aap ko ek sach pakistani bana lain.

welll first of all i am not a fan of Altaf, even i don't like him!!!
Lekin yeh jo clip aap nay post ki hea, kya aap nay usski poori speech bhi sunni thi yeh waali??

@ manni bro: This will jog your memory a bit

So stop reading it...

Endurer bhai app kiya kehna chahrahay hoo jo 12 may ko howa uss main sirf MQM ka haath tha..aisa kuch nahi hai..baqii parties kai huqmaran bhie thay jaisay kai sherry rehman aur tehreqai insaaf kai bunday bhie thay...abh kal ko main bhie MQM ka jhundha utha kar pohounch jaoun or do teen bunday hire karloo tu isska mutlab mqm wallay yeh sabh kuch karwarahay hain...baqii sabh tu allah mian ki gaayain haina jaisay unhounay tu kuch kiya hi nahi...

Well bro jo video (1st one) aap nay post ki hain wesi main bhi post ker sakta hoon, even main nay tou ekk dekhi bhi hea jiss main sheerin rehman ke guards firing ker rahe thee so iss video ka kya makhsad hea? wese bhi mujhe tou iss video main koi bhi saboot dikhai nahi diya ke yeh mqm waale hi thee.
Now @ Imran Khan, yeh tou june 2007 main Altaf hussain ke khillaf mukhadme kerne ja rahe thee, ab feb 2008 chall raha hea, kya huwa unn cases ka? Kahan hain woh saboot??
Asal point jo main yahan kehna chatta tha woh yeh hea ke, Benazir ke Qatal ke baad sindhioon nay "Pakistan nahi Kaphaa, Panjabi nahi khappa"!! ke naare lagaye, pppp nay Mulk torne ki baatain ki. BB ka Qatal panjab main huwa phir bhi aag karachi main kyun lagai gai?? Inn logoon ko watan ka ghadar kyun nahi kaha gaya?? Even sub say ziyada unn hi ko votes mille!!!
Shebaaz shareef nay kittne bande merwaye usse koi deshatgard kyun nahi kehtta???
Waziristaan waghera main pro Talliban forces ullta pak army hi say jang ker rahi hain unko koi mulk ka dushman kyun nahi kehtta??
Sirf mqm hi ko kyun? Ager ittne hi burre hoote tou ittni bhaari aksaryaat say kese jeete karachi main ? ya phir sara karachi hi dehshaatgard hea?

Not this one, but I have heard him on various occasions, and your point is?

my point is very simple iss tarah ki clips say tou aaap kuch bhi prove ker sakte hain, pehlle please poori speech tou post karye taake sunne walle kudh appna demagh use kerke keh sakain keh aaya yeh baat as a mulk dushman kahi gai hea ya nahi?? Hum main say kissi ko bhi shayed maloom nahi ke iss say aglla ya peechlla jumlla kya tha woh bhi tou sunne ko mille.
Am i wrong??

Isn't Altaf the guy who fights for the so-called rights of Muhajirs? Who is a Muhajir here? YOU? ME? Nearly the entire of Punjab consisted of Muhajirs when partition occured and so did the interior Sindh. Even if they, our ancestors were Muhajirs, they chose to be a part of this country and well, the majority of those muhajirs are dead now anyway. Back to us, those who were either born or raised here; are we Muhajirs? Such a bogus policy this guy runs.

Manni bro, I see how simple your point happens to be. Play closer attention this time - It's that speech of the guy you're defending:

Thats a keynote speech and not some dialogue in a movie that could be twisted towards the end.

Can you believe this guy?

Now a look at MQM's track record:

Violence has always accompanied the outfit’s political activities. It began with the first public meeting on August 8, 1986, which was accompanied by aerial firing, street violence and damage to public property by participants. Two months later, on October 31, rioting in Karachi and Hyderabad, another MQM (A) stronghold, left 12 persons dead. Altaf Hussain and ten other leaders of the outfit were arrested on November 2 that year which only increased the street violence in Mohajir dominated cities. On December 14, the outfit’s secretary general Dr Imran Farooq claimed that the situation can come under control only if Altaf Hussain is released. Almost on cue, violence flared up that night and the next day leaving 120 persons dead in Karachi.

Violence continued, allegedly perpetrated by MQM, despite the outfit entering into an alliance with the Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) in 1988 and participating in a coalition government at the Federal level. The two parties had signed a 54 point agreement commonly known as the Karachi Accord just before the elections held in December that year. News reports suggested that most violence was between supporters of the MQM and the Jiye Sindh Movement, an organisation purpotedly fighting the cause of native Sindhis. Another rival with which the MQM frequently indulged in violent clashes was the Punjabi-Pukhtoon Ittehad (PPI), an outfit comprising of armed extremists from the Pukhtoon and Punjabi communities. The press to was a victim of the MQM’s terror strategies. Several newspapers, including the Dawn, Jang, identified by the outfit as non-symphathetic to the ‘movement’ were targeted for enforced boycotts.

2000

• December 22: An additional district and sessions court in Karachi declares MQM-A chief Altaf Hussain and three other activists absconders in a case pertaining to the killing of two persons during an MQM-A sponsored strike in Karachi in June 1995.
  
• December 15: Five MQM-A activists acquitted by a Karachi court in a case regarding an attack on police personnel during a shootout in Liaquatabad in 1998.
  
• November 11: Six MQM-A activists are arrested from Sukkur for their alleged involvement in the November 6-bomb blast.
  
• November 6: Bomb explodes at the Karachi marketing office of the Jang group of newspapers. MQM-A cadre Iqbal Macha is prime suspect for the attack.
  
• Government calls for a report from the High Commission in India on the visit of an MQM- A delegation to that country.
  
• July 9: An MQM-A activist in police custody, in Karachi, states that the top-leadership of the party has directed him to kill 28 fellow cadres for their suspected involvement in various crimes.
  
• July 4: A Karachi court issues arrest warrants against an MQM-A woman leader, Nasreen Jalil, and some other activists on charges of rioting and obstructing police in performing their duties.
  
• January 17: Nine persons are killed and 25 others injured in a bomb explosion in Karachi. Police blame the MQM-A for the act and claim that 16 terrorists linked to the outfit have been arrested. MQM (A) denies the charge.

1999

• November 26: Senior MQM-A leader Farooq Sattar is arrested after surrendering to the Military Intelligence.
  
• September 9: MQM-A secretary general Imran Farooq surfaces in London after being in hiding for seven years and claims his life is in danger in Pakistan.
  
• August 1: Seven MQM-A office-bearers, including a Member of the National Assembly, and two Members of the Sindh Provincial Assembly, resign from the "basic membership" of the party owing to "fundamental differences with MQM chief Altaf Hussain over policy matters".
  
• January 30: Three Urdu newspapers, Jang, Amn, and Parcham, are charged with sedition for carrying an MQM-A advertisement seeking donations for "victims of police excesses" and to compensate those "killed, tortured or victimised by the police and other security agencies during their crackdown against the party".
  
• January 24: UK grants political asylum and residency to MQM-A chairman Altaf Hussain. Pakistan lodges protest.

1998

• October 31: Following the MQM-A’s refusal to meet the Prime Minister’s deadline, Federal rule is imposed in Sindh and a massive crackdown is launched by security agencies.
  
• October 28: Prime Minister Nawaz Sharief accuses an MQM-A Member of the Sindh Provincial Assembly (MPA) and seven other activists of involvement in the murder of Hakim Saeed. Sharief sets a three-day deadline on the outfit to hand-over the assassins, failing which he threatens to call -off the alliance.
  
• October 17: Former Sindh Governor Hakim Mohd Saeed is assassinated by alleged MQM-A terrorists.
  
• September 20: MQM-A decides to resume support to Pakistan Muslim League at Federal level and in Sindh without joining the Ministry.
  
• June : 140 persons are killed during various instances of ethnic violence.
  
• March 21: Six persons, including MQM-H leader Imtiaz Ahmed Khan and two relatives, are killed by unidentified gunmen in Karachi.
  
• Federal government asks Sindh government to furnish details on steps being taken to counter MQM-H imposed ‘no-go’ areas.
  
• February 28: 100 MQM-H members are arrested in crackdown launched after the February 22- Korangi-attack.
  
• February 22: Eight civilians are killed outside a mosque at Korangi, Karachi, in MQM factional rivalry.
  
• February 1: Sindh High Court acquits Altaf Hussain and 18 co-accused in the case of the abduction of an Army officer.
  
• January 10: Three persons, including a woman, are killed and five more injured in indiscriminate firing during MQM factions’ clash.

1997

• October 2: Three persons are killed in factional rivalry in Karachi.
  
• September 27: MQM-H asks the British government to deport Altaf Hussain from London.
  
• August 14: MQM-A opposes legislation on terrorism.
  
• July 26: MQM-A renames itself as Muttahida Qaumi Mahaz.
  
• July 9: Three MQM-A workers are arrested on Pakistan-Afghanistan border.
  
• July 6: Four persons are killed in MQM-A violence in Karachi.
  
• June 18 : Government invites MQM-A for talks.
  
• June 17: Four persons are killed in factional rivalry in Karachi. Altaf Hussain asks workers to close down all the liaison offices of the party.
  
• June 10: 12 persons are killed in wave of violence in Karachi, allegedly perpetrated by MQM-A activists.
  
• May 4: 70 MQM-H activists are arrested in Karachi
  
• May 2: 500 MQM-H activists are arrested in Karachi
  
• April 16: Two MQM-H activists are killed by MQM-A in Karachi.
  
• April 12: Three MQM-H workers are killed and another injured in separate attacks by activistrs of the rival MQM-A in Karachi.
  
• April 1: Sindh government announces formation of a Compensation Committee to review cases of compensation for persons and families and their legal heirs affected during the period October 1993 to November 1997.
  
• February : MQM-A concludes an accord with Prime Minister Nawaz Sharief and joins the coalition government at the Federal-level and in Sindh. In the accord, Sharief agrees to institute a judicial probe into the allegedly deaths of MQM-A supporters in police custody or encounters or attacks by terrorists; he also agrees to grant compensation to the families of the deceased.
  
• January 20: MQM-A National Assembly candidate from Rahim Yar Khan Javed Mazari is arrested along with another cadre.
  
• January 18: Sindh government grants parole and releases MQM-A senators Aftab Ahmed Sheikh and Nasreen Jalil.

1996

• October 10: United States Immigration and Naturalization Services (INS) refuses to grant asylum to three senior MQM-A leaders, including senior vice chairman Saleem Shahzad.
  
• October 5: Over two dozen MQM activists are arrested following a series of different encounters in different places in Karachi.
  
• August 21: Hafiz Osama Qadri, MQM-A leader and former member of the Sindh Provincial Assembly, is arrested.
  
• June 16: Karachi police arrest MQM-A cadres Azhar Sayyan––wanted in more than 50 cases––and Naseem Pajama, wanted in 27 cases.
  
• June 1: Two MQM-A terrorists are arrested in Karachi.
  
• April 12: MQM-A delegation goes to Geneva for United Nations Human Rights Commission (UNHRC) session.
  
• April 10: MQM-A cadre Nadeem Chita, carrying reward of Rs one million, is arrested from Azizabad, Karachi.
  
• April 9: Four MQM-A cadres, allegedly involved in 13 cases of murder, six cases of abduction and several other crimes, are arrested in Multan.
  
• April 2: Shamim Ahmed, MQM-A leader and Minister in the Sindh government announces the formation of another MQM faction.
  
• March 5: Two abducted persons are rescued from MQM-A cadres in Karachi.
  
• February 28: Three MQM-A workers reportedly confess of a plot to kill religious leaders with the assistance of a sectarian group.
  
• February 1: MQM-A leader, Ajmal Dehlvi warns government that the outfit would disrupt World Cup cricket matches to be held in Pakistan.
  
• Four MQM activists are arrested in Saudi Arabia.
  
• January 17: Federal government grants Rs. 500 thousand for a proposed library being built by the MQM-A.
  
• Rockets are fired at MQM-H headquarters in Landhi. MQM-H chief Afaq Khan accuses the rival MQM-A for this attack.
  
• January 3: Three civilians are killed during an MQM-organised strike in Karachi.

1995

• September 8: Five MQM-A activists are arrested in Karachi.
  
• August 15: Top MQM-A activist Tariq ‘Commando’ is arrested in Karachi.
  
• August 6: Top MQM-A activist Fahim ‘Commando’ and three of his associates are arrested in Karachi.
  
• August 3: In retaliation to the August 2-killing of top MQM-A cadres, 24 persons, including a Sub-divisional Magistrate, are killed in Karachi.
  
• August 2: Top MQM-A terrorist Farooq ‘Dada’ and three of his associates are killed in Karachi.
  
• July 5, 6, 13 & 24: 10 MQM-A activists are killed and six more arrested in a series of raids on MQM-A bases in Karachi. A large cache of arms and ammunition is seized.
  
• July: MQM-A announces weekly strikes on Friday and Saturday until its demands for more rights are met. Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto responds and says MQM-A’s violence is aimed at carving out a separate Province for more than eight million Mohajirs living in Karachi and Hyderabad
  
• June: 10 Sindhi-speaking officials are killed by alleged MQM-A activists in Karachi.
  
• MQM-A activists attack police and civilian targets employing guns, rocket and bombs in Karachi.
  
• June 24: A train carrying arms for SFs is looted and burnt down by MQM-A activists.
  
• June 15: 24 persons, including 10 Sindhis, are killed in Karachi.
  
• June 4: 10 persons are killed by MQM-A activists.
  
• May 18: 15 persons are killed in terrorist attacks in several parts of Karachi.
  
• May 5: US Embassy announces that issuing visas from Karachi would be stopped because of the prevalence of terrorist violence in the city.

1994

• November 11: Indiscriminate firing by suspected MQM-A gunmen kills eight persons, including an Air Force officer in Karachi.
  
• September 26: Three MQM-A activists are arrested and a large cache of weapons is seized in several raids on their hideouts in Karachi.
  
• September 17: Eight persons are killed in indiscriminate firing allegedly by MQM-A gunmen.
  
• August 8: Altaf loyalists in Karachi allegedly kill a top-MQM-H leader.
  
• July 13: Six persons are killed in an attack on a bus in Karachi.
  
• June: Altaf Hussain and 19 other MQM members sentenced in absentia by a Karachi court to 27 years imprisonment for abducting and torturing an Army intelligence officer, Major Kaleem, and his four associates in June 1991.
  
• June 28: Suspected MQM-A activists kill seven police personnel, including an officer who had arrested several MQM-A gunmen.
  
• June 20: A court in Karachi issues non-bailable warrants against Altaf Hussain in connection with the murder of a Senator in May 1990.
  
• March 6: Suspected MQM-A activists kill five security force (SF) personnel, including an Army Captain, in Karachi.

1993

• May 1: Azim Tariq is killed allegedly by MQM-A cadres.
  
• February 10: 13 persons are killed in a bomb attack in Karachi.

1992

• November 27: MQM-A Chairman Azim Tariq comes over-ground and disowns Altaf Hussain.
  
• July 19: Sindh Chief Minister disassociates himself from MQM-A.
  
• June 29: MQM-A members resign their seats in the Federal and Sindh assemblies.
  
• June: MQM dissidents led by Afaq Ahmed and Aamir Khan formally launch the Haqiqi (real) MQM, subsequently known by its sobriquet MQM (H).
  
• June 22: Cases are filed against 13 MQM-A leaders, including Altaf Hussain.
  
• June 19: Army is deployed in Karachi and curfew is declared to prevent factional clashes within MQM.
  
• May 28: Federal government launches military operation against "dacoits and terrorists" in Sindh.
  
• May 19: The Altaf Hussain faction of MQM clashes with rebels in the party and a series of killings and abductions follow.
  
• January 1: Altaf Hussain leaves for London on a self-imposed exile.

1991

• October 1: Prominent journalist Mohammad Salahuddin’s house is bombed allegedly by MQM activists in Karachi
  
• April 30: Two Japanese students allegedly abducted by MQM activists for ransom are released after 45 days in captivity.
  
• February : 14 persons are killed and 26 more inured in separate incidents of violence.
  
• January 3: The Jam Sadiq-led MQM government in Sindh decides to set up four special courts.

1990

• August 22: 27 persons are killed and 55 more injured in firing on MQM camps in Karachi.
  
• July 13: 45 persons are killed in a bomb blast in Hyderabad.
  
• May 9-10: 16 persons are killed in Karachi violence.
  
• April 17-30: 11 persons are killed in Hyderabad violence
  
• April 12: MQM rejects government’s offer for peace talks.
  
• February 6-9: 64 persons are killed during an MQM-organised anti-government demonstration in Karachi.
  
• January 30 –February 3: 18 persons are killed in anti-government demonstrations in Hyderabad.

1989

• December 12-25: 21 persons are killed in Hyderabad violence and nine others in Karachi.
  
• October 13: Two police officers are killed, even as Altaf Hussain meets President Ghulam Ishaq Khan in Karachi.
  
• September 22: Sindh Deputy Inspector General (DIG) of Police says MQM is a terrorist outfit and not a political organisation.
  
• September 17-19: Nine persons are killed and 24 others injured during riots in Hyderabad
  
• August 19: 11 persons, including a police personnel, are killed by alleged MQM gunmen in Karachi
  
• August 13: Seven persons are killed by suspected MQM gunmen in Karachi.
  
• July 16-23: 10 persons are killed in violence in Hyderabad.
  
• June 1: Three Federal Ministers meet MQM leaders in a bid to save Karachi Accord.
  
• May 30: Talks are held between the then Punjab Chief Minister, Nawaz Sharief and Altaf Hussain for political co-operation.
  
• April 6: 10 persons are killed and 40 others wounded in incidents of firing in Hyderabad.
  
• March 18: 10 persons are killed and 15 others injured by unidentified gunmen in Karachi.
  
• February 23: Karachi University vice-chancellor’s office is burnt down by suspected MQM cadres.

1988

• October 1: Suspected MQM activists kill 90 Sindhis in separate attacks in Karachi.
  
• August 30: MQM activists kill a Karachi University student.
  
• July 21: Women MQM activists storm a Karachi police station and free 18 arrested persons.
  
• July 17: Karachi Mayor Aftab Sheikh is attacked. Eight persons are killed in riots that followed.
  
• June 18: Six persons are killed in violence in Hyderabad
  
• April 30- May 9: 31 persons are killed in Karachi street violence.
  
• March 1: Four persons are killed and several others injured during violence in Karachi.
  
• February 4: Six persons are killed in violence in Karachi
  
• January 18: Four persons are killed in clashes between MQM and PPI activists.
  
• January 10: Five persons are killed in stabbing and other incidents of violence; several others are injured in Karachi. The Army is called in.

1987

• October 31: Two persons are killed and 85 others injured in violence during an MQM-strike in Karachi. Senior police officials are injured in violence in Hyderabad.
  
• August 30: Altaf Hussain courts arrest in Karachi.
  
• August 28: Sindh government orders arrest of August 26-rioteers. 160 persons, including leaders of the PPI, are arrested but Altaf Hussain escapes.
  
• August 26: Nine persons are killed and 80 others injured in Karachi riots.
  
• July 22 - August 30: 22 persons killed and 300 others injured in clashes between MQM and a rival group, Punjabi-Pukhtoon Ittehad (PPI). Besides, five police personnel are killed and 38 others injured during riots in this period.
  
• June 21: MQM Chairman calls for boycott of Jang newspaper for its "anti-Mohajir policy". The newspaper’s office in Hyderabad is burnt down.
  
• May 21: One person killed in riots over the arrest of MQM workers in Karachi.
  
• February 20-21: 16 persons injured in street violence in Karachi.
  
• January 31: Altaf Hussain says in Liaquatabad that Mohajirs "will have to arrange for their own security"

1986

• December 20: MQM Chairman Azim Ahmad Tariq demands justice for Mohajirs and advises Pakistan President Zia-ul Haq to issue arms licenses.
  
• December 14: 50 persons killed in Karachi; The Army is called-in and curfew declared.
  
• December 9: One person killed and 40 injured during clashes following MQM’s call for strike in Karachi.
  
• November 21: 30 persons injured in firing in Karachi.
  
• November 18: MQM cadres fire in the air and disrupt a cricket match at Hyderabad’s Niaz Stadium.
  
• November 3: 10 persons killed in hand-grenade attacks and six others in street violence in Karachi.
  
• November 2: Altaf Hussain and 10 other leaders are arrested on charges of attempt to murder and rioting. 72 other activists arrested with arms and explosives in different areas of Karachi.
  
• October 31: 12 persons killed during riots in Karachi. Riots spread to Hyderabad where seven persons are killed.
  
• October 25: Altaf Hussain says in Hyderabad, Sindh, that Mohajir youth should "collect arms. If our rights are not given to us, we will use every kind of force"

Now MQM's what? A democratic force? Think white and act straight.