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Old 06-23-2006, 05:42 PM
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Guys this is most breath taking issue in muslim society like pakistan. Child abuse in our madrasshas. What you say? what should we could do?


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Old 06-23-2006, 06:16 PM
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Astagfirullah..Whats with these maulas !!
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Noorzei Bro, the URL is incorrent or missing, kindly update them.
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Noorzei Bro, the URL is incorrent or missing, kindly update them.
Ji meray bahi, i am sorry if it wasn't working, but i check here it again.

Pakistan activists, parents want investigation of sex abuse in Islamic schools
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* Madrassas hit by sex abuse claims

A Pakistani minister has revealed hundreds of cases of alleged child sex abuse at Islamic schools, or madrassas.

There were 500 complaints this year of abuse allegedly committed by clerics, Aamer Liaquat Hussain, a minister in the religious affairs department, said.

That compares with 2,000 last year, but as yet there have been no successful prosecutions, Mr Hussain told the BBC.

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Here are more articles, i am sick from my stomach , these uneducated mullah sexually abusing child, and then pressurizing our government not to bring these news to public. Aint they married? aint their wives (pardon my french) not enough to satisfy their "needs"?


please read this, i am sure you wont like it.

A madrassa teacher and two others are jailed awaiting trial in the port city of Karachi for an acid attack on a 14-year-old boy in 2002 after he allegedly refused to have sex with a cleric. The boy was blinded and badly disfigured. The suspects deny the charges.

"The mullahs think they are above the law," said Asma Jehanghir, chairwoman of the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan, a nongovernment agency. "We have to break this wall of silence."

An Interior Ministry official confirmed that police are investigating some cases of alleged sex abuse by madrassa instructors. He declined to give further details or to be identified by name because he was not authorized to speak to the media.

In December, in another part of Karachi, Muhammad Askoroni's mother noticed a bite on the 10-year-old boy's neck. The child started crying and vomiting when asked what happened, said his mother, Dil Jauher. The boy's claim: a cleric at his madrassa sodomized him after evening Quran classes, according to a complaint filed with police and the rights group Madadgaar.

Pakistani rights groups are encouraging parents and children to speak out and document abuse. Dozens of allegations of abuse in madrassas are being compiled -- part of a wider campaign to draw attention to child abuse in a culture where domestic violence is common but rarely reaches the public's attention.

"The boy was bleeding from the mouth and nostrils," said his father, Muhammad Aashiq, according to the commission report.

A madrassa teacher, Qari Mahboob Aalam, denied the torture allegations, but admitted "it is a practice to chain students," the report said.

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Re: Madrassha sex abuse

2-3 cases ka refrences diya gaya hai ...But still ek be prove nahi howa Laiken ess per ess tarah ka impression dhay rahay hain jaise madrassa mein alim nahi child molester baitay hoon

Brother noorzei aapko pata hai propaganda kis cheez ko kehthay hain? aur ye Modern islam kis cheeze ka naam hai?

Brother article post karne say pehle tora bahoot research be ker liya karien
Ek propaganda site say itne articles post kar leye hain..Abb kindly ye be check karien ka SO CALLED MODERN countries mein kitne cases ho rahay hain
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Originally Posted by Majid @ Fri Jun 23, 2006 10:31 pm
2-3 cases ka refrences diya gaya hai ...But still ek be prove nahi howa Laiken ess per ess tarah ka impression dhay rahay hain jaise madrassa mein alim nahi child molester baitay hoon

Brother noorzei aapko pata hai propaganda kis cheez ko kehthay hain? aur ye Modern islam kis cheeze ka naam hai?

Brother article post karne say pehle tora bahoot research be ker liya karien
Ek propaganda site say itne articles post kar leye hain..Abb kindly ye be check karien ka SO CALLED MODERN countries mein kitne cases ho rahay hain

I am sorry if these news offend you, but my brother

aap niey ghoor nei kiya, yeh sub khaber Pakistani minister key interview per base karti hai. Zara yehain ghoor kiyjay.


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Phir dosara link be Pakistani muslim forum say hai. Yehain per likhney walaya bhi Pakistani hein. Phir ghoor kiyjay.

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ur sub say ahiam baat, mein ney kuud para key government per mullah shaib dabaho dal reyin hein key yehi sub na philaya jiya. ( I will try to find the link of that news) Mein personly is baat key gilaaf huin, ur umied karta huin key ur bhi meray hum khila huingay.

Jub mein Pakistan mein tha, Mein neiy kuud kai bar aapni akbar mein asi kabar pari hein. Urr yakinen bhut su neiy pari hogai.

Iss mein khafa huniy ki baat niey balkay punishment daney ki zarurat hein, takey dosaray khabi issa na kyrayin. I believe not all are same.

I hope this will clear, my brother evil only eradicate with condemnation and punishment. that's why man made laws!
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Originally Posted by Majid @ Fri Jun 23, 2006 11:31 pm
2-3 cases ka refrences diya gaya hai ...But still ek be prove nahi howa Laiken ess per ess tarah ka impression dhay rahay hain jaise madrassa mein alim nahi child molester baitay hoon
I resent that!! prove to aur bhi kaafi kuch nahi howa, kia usse bhi keh dein k woh hai hi nahi? It is everywhere & you / I are well aware of it.

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Abb kindly ye be check karien ka SO CALLED MODERN countries mein kitne cases ho rahay hain
Beg your pardon but it is not a west-oriented discussion. We need to clean our own backyard before taking out at others.
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Noorzei brother, It is not as common in madrissah's as it is in other parts of the society. We need to curb it from the grass-root level. Yes, justice should prevail & there should be no exceptions of mullahs or teachers or industrialists or masons.
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Noorzei brother, It is not as common in madrissah's as it is in other parts of the society. We need to curb it from the grass-root level. Yes, justice should prevail & there should be no exceptions of mullahs or teachers or industrialists or masons.
You are very right! its almost every where from common walk of ppl to high profile ppl. And this should be need to clean, i admire your view that we need to clean our backyard. And this is very essential to keep the raythem of civilazed nation.
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If i were to give my view...

I would say on my accord that these child abuses are more in indai and Pak where Madrassa prevail in thousands..I havent heard of a marassa in the west...Correct me if i am wrong...

Mulas caught should be hanged !! I swear playing with a childs life is hell!!The child then cannot live normally ever!!I have witnessed this scence myself as being the witness of a friends abuse !!

Another alternative is that ===these asses should be shot .one into the head !!
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Most of these childs end up being promiscuous. Child abuse is more common than rapes because: a) a child is innocent and is easy to suppress him b) there are no chances of pregnancy.

These mullahs can instantly declare anything western as 'fahash' but when it comes to them, they would do anything to keep things under the carpet.

That minister received death threats from mullahs once he exposed those barbaric acts of sexual abuse on minors. These madrissah's a non-man's-land and it feels as if they are not accountable to anyone on planet earth. My suggestions would be to keep record of every single person inside the institute & put them under the surveillance of law enforcement agencies or other individual monitoring bodies.
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well advised..But who hears us out....

All the reasons bhai styated is absolutelt right..I have answered this post on pretext of those reasons...

Child abuse is a social evil..A new emerging one..When it comes to mullahs our religious senntiments are hurt..They teach us one God and submission ..while on the side they are busy with thinking ways to torture and abuse a child!!

Allah strike them All!!
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Re: Madrassha sex abuse

Mytones, there are couple of incident also from UK and USA , some child abuse cases in madrassah.

Read this, stories of some real ppl. ( Plz, read it all, most horric stories that I felt ashamed to copy it here)

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2- Dr Ghayasuddin Siddiqui, the head of the Muslim Parliament of Great Britain, said yesterday that the 700 or so madrassas in Britain were "outside the law". He was speaking at the launch of a report about the dangers facing some of the 100,000 children who attend the institutions, which are usually attached to mosques and are the Islamic equivalents of Sunday schools.

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Yes you are right that we should deal with them iron hands, coz their evil action is ironic and backsliding to our religion. They should be expelled and punish publicly.
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Re: Madrassha sex abuse

Few days ago, I was watching some news documentary program on BBC1.

Where British ppl asked government and legal authorities to reveal the name and identity of child abuser or sex offender, after they released from prison, that ppl could beware from their presence in their vicinity

I say, this is essential to know, who are child abusers or sex offenders in our society, for the sake of our children and their future. This is our legal right!

People who are committing those evil crimes are not NORMAL. The only reason to highlight this issue to your kind attention, that we should also protest against this and ask our government for full capital punishment, and revealing their identity to general ppl and expelled them from their religious duties. Without any sympathy.

You may read above mentioned link, that those sick religious leaders, can make fake Nikahnama with any child student of their. This is insane.

If the minister, who revealed those facts, receiving death threat, then it is still not too late. We could do much more to stop this evil from our society. We need those type of leadership, atleast they are courageous to point out wolf among the sheep.

we could do something! yes we could.
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