Should abortion be permitted?

dsjeya · #31 (**permalink**) 05-09-2006, 10:25 PM

if what rani says is acceptable to all there is a 30 days time 4 woman
morning after pill taken immedietly after unprotected sex/rape will terminate that conception
if abortion is taboo y there is natural abortion,it is natures way of terminating defective embryo
now with scan babys with birth defects r aborted

RANI786 · #32 (**permalink**) 05-10-2006, 01:47 PM

no I do not justify abortion...and hey i know these people: the woman was pregnnant and the doc's found out her baby had a heart problem and they said she ownt live long, maybe a few months so its better you have it removed. The woman said no, Allah gave me this child and I will keep it and take care of it. So she had the baby, spent most of the time in hospital with her (it was a girl) and the baby has had like 3 heart surgeries (major ones) and she is MAshaAllah 4 years old now. She does need help while walking. She couldnt walk till she was 3 yrs. She could only eat thru a straw till she was 3, now MashaAllah she can eat and drink more normally. But walking is still a bit of a problem. But when that child smiles and laughs uff Iits so nice to see. She is fully enjoying the gift of life that she has received. When I see her my eyes fill up...I mean she is so little has been thru too much already and yet she is enjoying her life with joy and laughter. I just thought I'd share this with you. May Allah give her strenght and a long healthy life, Ameen.

dsjeya · #33 (**permalink**) 05-10-2006, 02:08 PM

how many can afford 3 major heart surgeries 4 a child,and what amount of suffering 4 the child and family
thamk u 4 sharing rani
scan - defective baby- abort

tere_isaq_main _pagel_hog · #34 (**permalink**) 05-10-2006, 02:22 PM

hi rani

dsjeya · #35 (**permalink**) 05-10-2006, 02:44 PM

i thouht tere will contribute

RANI786 · #36 (**permalink**) 05-10-2006, 04:24 PM

hello to you too "tere_isaq_main _pagel_hog".
And its sad isnt it, but the mother has so much strength you know..for herself, the baby and the whole family. Makes me think of the post about 'why do women cry' of Simi in another thread. Allah gives power to those who stay strong isnt it?

Be happy Keep smiling · #37 (**permalink**) 05-10-2006, 06:40 PM

As far as a defective baby is concerned, I think it is upto the parents of the baby to decide , 'coz sometimes things do take a turn for the better ..so maybe once the baby is born, it's condition may improve with the help of medical science.. But again , as Dsjeya ji says, not everyone can afford such treatments . That is the sad part if it

dsjeya · #38 (**permalink**) 05-11-2006, 04:53 AM

i want to be practical but most of u r religious and sentimental
if the child is sick the whole family suffers

dev_3dworx · #39 (**permalink**) 05-11-2006, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by simi @ Tue May 09, 2006 7:12 pm

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Originally Posted by dev_3dworx @ Tue May 09, 2006 9:05 am

Sorry Moona but I disagree with you. Our religion doesn't permit us for that. And for the sake of argument that she wouldn't forget her past if she has that baby well. After abortion what shall she do. Live in the dark and that rapist is looking for another victum. Red Eye (the movie) is a perfect example that if a women decides that nobody can mess with her than it surely means nobody.

Dev_3dworkz..nice to see you participating in this debate !

So continuing our discussion, I would like to add that whether she has the baby or not has got nothing to do with the rapist looking for another victim .. Do you mean if she has the baby , the rapist will stop going after others ?? I dont understand that..

And about the movie , and the woman deciding that nobody can mess with her, isnt it slightly out of context here ??

@Manni Bhai, Adoption is an option, but why should she go through the pain of carrying her rapist's child for 9 months and having the entire society point fingers at her ?

I mean, doesnt she deserve better than that after all she has gone through.. I think the woman's trauma deserves more thought here, rather than a foetus that most probably cant even feel a thing on being aborted..As Dr.Dsjeya says, there is the "morning after pill" .. Surely in one day, the baby wont be big enough to feel the pain (In fact, I doubt if there will be a baby at all the very next day of the incident ..It will take atleast a few days to form, wont it..But I am not well versed with these medical details..I would prefer Dr.Dsjeya to clarify) ..So you cant call it murder ..

Again as I have said earlier, I too am against abortion , but this is the one and only case where I think an exception is justified ..

We are wathing the scene from just a single perspective. If that unborn child posts a question here, what is your answer and as dsjeya said, "be practical" well my previous post was certainly the same. In this age of media and technology if such women abort her child and hide that incident from the society. Criminals would take the full benefit of it. Why they stop doing this crime cuz they know there is nothing to affraid of and nobody is capable to knock the justice. I prefer to kill that rapist over abortion of an innocent child.
In case that women is not capable of taking the responsibility of that child then there are some other ways like in pakistan "Edhi Jhola". Leave that child at there, they will take care of it which is surely better than abortion.

dsjeya · #40 (**permalink**) 05-11-2006, 01:59 PM

dev
to punish a rapist a woman raped and pregnant
shoud not abort !!!!
if a woman does not become pregnant rapist need not be punished???
is this your message

Be happy Keep smiling · #41 (**permalink**) 05-11-2006, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dev_3dworx @ Thu May 11, 2006 9:15 am

In this age of media and technology if such women abort her child and hide that incident from the society. Criminals would take the full benefit of it. Why they stop doing this crime cuz they know there is nothing to affraid of and nobody is capable to knock the justice.

Going along with the pregnancy is not a way of punishing the rapist.. She can abort the child and go on to give a police complaint or whatever it is to get justice..

dsjeya · #42 (**permalink**) 05-12-2006, 05:19 AM

a child needs parental affection and care not an orphnage

mytonse · #43 (**permalink**) 06-09-2006, 10:49 PM

I think we all strayed here from the main topic..

Our topic was Should abortion be justifies...

Well here my view..

Abortion is a crime in many religion..But abortion is also a gift samewise..

Lets thru them..
For one a couple hav unprotected sex and then the pregnancy reports come positive..IF they abort now..its a crime against humanity !!

For other..if there was a consequence ..either the mother or the child i would opt for the woman ..cause saving her can lead to next baby thru treatment ofcourse but the child would lack luv and proper nourishment ...

in another case a rape should result in abortion cause the women is not responsible and as in many cases she wouldnt be able to nourish i tand thus ruining her life altogether..I think this topic need a sincere answer as never before..

Regards..

dsjeya · #44 (**permalink**) 06-21-2006, 03:23 PM

the family shud decide the want abortion r not

mytonse · #45 (**permalink**) 06-21-2006, 03:35 PM

no..the doctore shoauld hav a upper hand..iN LIFE AND DEATH SITUATION IT MATTERS BRO !!