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Old 05-22-2008, 05:34 AM
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Hello everyone!

Iam back with THEME OF THE WEEK!

This week's discussion...is: Are women really free from social rules?


We say that women are now on par with men... They are more independent and are free to take their own decisions... They have a say in the running of the family, They are treated equally to men and are now more privileged than the women of the past.. She is no more a person who stays inside the four walls taking care of the house hold..

But the big questions is - Is she really free???

Even now in many parts of the world, women are not given proper education.. If there is a boy and a girl in a house, more importance is given to the boy of the house... Before marriage, she has to listen to what her parents say and they are the one to take decisions for her and after marriage she needs to take permissions from her In-Laws...

Even now when a girl walks alone on the road side or walks alone into a restaurant, she gets a strange look from all the people around... Even now she is side lined and we hear so much about women harassment.. The government also works more on men's team in sports than for the women.. Though many social rules have been abolished, There are still many rules in the society which binds her..

Though she is praised for what she is, has she till now achieved the 100% freedom in life???

And the next questions is will she ever achieve 100% freedom???

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Old 05-22-2008, 08:01 AM
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When talking abt social rules...yes there are some parts of the world where society does bind a women in web of rules usually found in man dominated areas or sadiyon se chali rasmon ki wajah se.
I used to think that women hve to sacrifice a lot but i waz wrong when i saw man also suffering the same way...within one particular society or family if u break a rule...not only u ...ur grandchildren will also have to pay for that...but nowadays education and awareness have enlighted many families not their parents...but it did their children...when we talk abt freedom...then what is freedom?
i think both men and women are in one way or the other sacrificing...if lady is listening to inlaws then gents are listening outside from their boss...its just that they dont tell abt it usually.
if girl has to listen to parents ... guys also have to..must have heard of marriages in the age of 16-19..for these girls there must hve been similar age boys also.
Yes u r right Govt does work more on mens team than on ladies...i think it depends on the place...if u r staying in Afghanistan for God sake dont say that ..but if the same family has been living in Usa for more than 4 yrs...then for sure u can say. ..surrounding helps change the views indirectly
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but abhi bhi...europe, usa aur dosre mulqo me...auraton ko utna pay nai milta jitna ke men ko... example..idher norway mein...if a man is working as doctor, and a woman is a doctor too..un dono ke payment me thora bohat farq phir bhi hai...
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Old 05-23-2008, 08:35 PM
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did u ask the management/cashier..why do they do this...
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pata nai kio ...par aisa hi hai...everyone say..it is just like dat...
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of what i know ...here also in some places the salary for lady is less than what a guy would get...and the reason they say which isnot reasonable...but there it is...
that when a guy gets married...he has an increase in his pay...to some hundreds...
when a lady gets pregnant...she gets payment for all the days she didnot come..
having these facilities does make a difference in the whole management.
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I live in UK and I think its pretty much fair here ..
And I really ain't clear whats the issue here? Women ain't free or they ain't considered equal to men?

No one is (or should be) allowed to evade social rules. If a sociey considers its bad to have a one night stand, it doesn't matter if its a guy or a girl, both are considered equally wrong. If a society considers dating is wrong, same for that. Now if you're thinkin 'oh guys get away with dating in Pakistan/UK/Timbaktu/Mars, I can easily counter it with 'oh girls do it today, not all guys go on dates with goris'

Another point to ponder about, why do moms prefer son over daughters? I seriously don't want to know the answer but I believe you will understand when you'll get married and have a son. The point I'm trying to pose here is you just can't go on blaming men for this because I've seen lots of families where women hold the authority and they prefer boys over girls?

One final word, a bit off-topic, I've believed from the start, girls are way better than guys (on certain fronts). They are more sensitive, they can absorb more, they are better at understanding, they can multi-task better, but I somehow always come to the same conclusion that they are competing on a wrong front. They can do much more, bring happniess and provide peace to the whole family by being an important part of a society. For that they do not have to surpass any man, they certainly do not need to be hightest mark scorer at the school/college/university, for that they just have to be good daughter/wife/mother. Mothers shape boys AND girls, that is the very reason why female tutors are more common for kids going to KG.

I'm not saying I agree to the all the harrassments, I certainly ain't saying I agree to all those narrow minded families who overlook girls over guys, what I'm saying is a wife can be equal to the husband by staying in home and doing the job as a house-wife whereas the husband take cares of the outside. You do not have to do the same thing to be considered equal, and the day woman realise this, that day will definately make a lot of peoples' life better, much better.
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Instead of asking the world, why not ask ourselves for a change. Are WE implementing and practicing equal rights at our homes? Leave the under educated, illiterate lot for a while. Let us talk about ourselves, the so called concerned educated section of the society. Sit back and count the number of times we discriminated ourselves against men. Don't believe me, then, try to remember and start observing the number of times you put yourselves behind the men of your families.

It is always easier to talk about equality but the real problem is to respect and believe in it. I myself have stepped down on numerous occassions and swallowed my pride just to let my family feel good. NO, no, I don't mean equality means running down the family, or go anti-men, no! but I think we need to respect our lives,our freedom and our rights. We don't need to ask for our equality, we are EQUAL. Simplly believe that all human beings are equal and there won't be any problem
Let us start today with believing in ourselves.

Enough is talked about eve-teasing, it is horrifying, I know and every gril knows it but what are we doing. It is going on for ages then why don't we do anything? Have we ever spoken to our brothers and male friends not to get into these acts as it hurts? Hardly anyone of us. Why? because we are not supposed to talk about it. New Year's eve witnessed molestation of two women but these men got away with it. WHY? because we don't do anything about it. Alcohol was blamed. Family stood by these men. Why couldn't the women of such families feel for the women molested,why didn't they talk against the molestation. Because they are supposed to stand by their men.

Rape the most henious crime hardly punishes the rapists but blames the victim? why? because girls are not supposed to be going out or let loose . Now, how many of us have not blamed the victims.We need attitude change.


Not everything is bad but things can get better and eventually the best,not only for women but for the everyone.
WE respect ourselves and the WORLD will respect us, WE stand united, WE stand tall and the WORLD will not dare exploit us. Let us LOVE ourselves and be proud irrespective of our choices and preferences.

Lastly, if a collective effort is made we can change the world because if anyone of us feels unsafe then we all are unsafe.
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Ugh whats with the cut and paste factor here?

My opinion: I agree with you, Aadi.
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Thats what I found weird, instead of trying to counter an argument, she started going on about 'WE' should do this 'WE' should do that .. Not to be offensive at all, how many girls have been rapped on Desi Twist, or how many guys have raped that use Desi Twist? Making it sound like 'WE' did something wrong and 'WE' should take a stand?!
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Lol ditto
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Here they're driving buses and honestly it sucks.

.10c question: Whos a misogynist?
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Me? no! I love not being a misogynist while being one during the course of not being one just to make sure that I am the one.
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