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  1. #21
    It's post mortem time

    Quote Originally Posted by AaDi, post: 323207
    The post 'clearly' gives the reason why USA was mentioned.
    But it doesn't justify your 'reason'.

    Quote Originally Posted by AaDi, post: 323207
    So now I'm going to be told just because a country's name gets mentioned in a topic title, users are not allowed to post a different country's name!? I did search around but I'm afraid no other country provided the statstics I required.
    You can't bring statistics of a country which has oh well 100 x infinity times more resources. A country that can only be served as a role model and NOT a comparitive case study.

    Quote Originally Posted by AaDi, post: 323207
    lol the causes you have mentioned have been there, well, since Pakistan was made. I, personally, think a 15 year old has enough sense to know whats right and whats wrong.
    What are your contributions in this regard other than of course the outright I give up and so should you? When was the last time you met a handful of 15 year old Pakistanis living here in Pakistan? How, in your opinion, can they differentiate between right and wrong? Lets assume that they can what you say they can, why are they not pulling their fingers off of this menace?

    Quote Originally Posted by AaDi, post: 323207
    Just because 'that' loser did not have something called common sense, does not make anyone else (from the public) be responsible for them. (oh you can shoot the politicians by all means necessary).
    Each and every single person is responsible here. You, me, this whole country. It's time we should keep our personal differences aside and work for the benefit of our country.

    Quote Originally Posted by AaDi, post: 323207
    Oh and please dont come back at me with that crap saying 'halaat majboor karte hain' .. to hell with these 'excuses' .. I've been thru the same 'halaat' .. I never have and never will think of doing something like that.
    What have you been through in the entire span of your life? When was the last time you had to sleep on a pavement because you were homeless? When was the last time you were kicked on your buttocks because you didn't had resources enough that could shield you from the social plague? When was the last time you were devoid of parents? Are you an orphan, or an outcast? Have you worked for a cycle mechanic for rs 10/ day?

    The answer is a fortunate NO. Now for the sake of this discussion, lets assume that you have gone through all or some of that and you'vedecided to keep yourself in one piece; can you please tell us how it feels like when you're there?

    Quote Originally Posted by AaDi, post: 323207
    We can keep doing this for next 10 years by posting and pointing fingers at whats wrong, but the people who actually can make a difference don't even bother about it.
    I have no intentions to start a mud slinging carnival again because it (as you said) won't change a thing. We need people who can at least brainstorm us. I can make a difference and so can you. Aadi these drugs take the soul out of one's country. Do you remember those Mughals? We all know what happened to them. Today I have seen people here who want to make a difference. All they need is support and we're the ones who can give it to them.
    Dream, I do.

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Endurer, post: 324081
    It's post mortem time
    Sure it iz


    Quote Originally Posted by Endurer, post: 324081
    But it doesn't justify your 'reason'.
    The 'reason' was that if drug is being given attention because of the number of deaths .. than tobacco is the main killer and then alcohol. I hope you get the reason now, if not, I'll explain more.

    Quote Originally Posted by Endurer, post: 324081
    You can't bring statistics of a country which has oh well 100 x infinity times more resources. A country that can only be served as a role model and NOT a comparitive case study.
    Take it wat you want it to be taken as .. role model or case study .. I was pointing out the figures .. if you still feel like denying it, totally your choice

    Quote Originally Posted by Endurer, post: 324081
    What are your contributions in this regard other than of course the outright I give up and so should you?
    I've done what I could and will continue to do what I can. I also try my best to donate whenever I can and wherever I can .. And I never gave up and so shouldn't you!

    Quote Originally Posted by Endurer, post: 324081
    When was the last time you met a handful of 15 year old Pakistanis living here in Pakistan?
    Umm 2004

    Quote Originally Posted by Endurer, post: 324081
    How, in your opinion, can they differentiate between right and wrong?
    The sense of right and wrong comes at the age of 12. For more information, talk to child specialists or something.

    Lets assume that they can what you say they can, why are they not pulling their fingers off of this menace?
    No, you answer that how are they able to consume drugs, they do cost, so is someone giving them free!?

    Each and every single person is responsible here. You, me, this whole country. It's time we should keep our personal differences aside and work for the benefit of our country.
    Great! Lets 'work'!

    What have you been through in the entire span of your life? When was the last time you had to sleep on a pavement because you were homeless? When was the last time you were kicked on your buttocks because you didn't had resources enough that could shield you from the social plague? When was the last time you were devoid of parents? Are you an orphan, or an outcast? Have you worked for a cycle mechanic for rs 10/ day?
    Just cuz now I've got my life to a standard, does not mean its been like this from day 1. I started from at the age of 15 (14 but I wont call it work). And YES, I've been homeless and YES, I've spent nights after nights .. starving!!! I've also worked for £2.5/hr, just to get something to eat and make sure I could commune, I had to work atleast 5 hours a day (I worked 16-18 hours shift), I also worked in factories where they made bread loafs, BUT I never gave up, I kept trying and I never lost the sense! and I also know exactly what you are pointing at, yes the conditions are terrible, wrong things do come in your head but again, the question I used to ask myself, would it do me any good?

    Quote Originally Posted by Endurer, post: 324081
    The answer is a fortunate NO.
    Things are not always what they seem to be bro

    Quote Originally Posted by Endurer, post: 324081
    Now for the sake of this discussion, lets assume that you have gone through all or some of that and you've decided to keep yourself in one piece; can you please tell us how it feels like when you're there?
    I wish I could but its something you can only experience .. and I think I've pretty much answered it above.


    Quote Originally Posted by Endurer, post: 324081
    I have no intentions to start a mud slinging carnival again because it (as you said) won't change a thing. We need people who can at least brainstorm us. I can make a difference and so can you. Aadi these drugs take the soul out of one's country. Do you remember those Mughals? We all know what happened to them. Today I have seen people here who want to make a difference. All they need is support and we're the ones who can give it to them.
    I exactly know what you mean Adeel and how these drugs destory the society but I only know one thing and it is a fact, most of the people who have posted here have just done it for the sake of it. They will forget it the instant they move to the next thread and thats what makes me angry. There is no point giving all the oooos and awwws and then finally forgetting it.
    aye dil tu tanhaiyon main rehne ka AaDi hoja.. jinhein tu yaad karta hai wo bare masroof rehte hain..

  3. #23
    Well, then y dont the people who really care say somthing or think of somthing that will make a difference and share it...instead of complaining and just pointing fingers at others
    ~Ye Dard Ka Tufaan Guzra kyu nahi..Dil Toot Gayaa Hai To Bikhra kyu nahi..Ek Hi Shakhs Ko Chahta Hai kyu Itna..Koi Dusra Is Dil Me Utarta kyu nahi~

  4. #24
    Its really pathetic to hear tat even very young people are in to addiction
    Surely the Government should take control of this drug addiction..

    Drug Rehab

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  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by AaDi, post: 324095
    The sense of right and wrong comes at the age of 12. For more information, talk to child specialists or something.
    While agreeing with you on the other points, I don't think that the sense of right and wrong comes at the age of 12. 12 is a very small age to assume that the child can make out right from wrong, especially when he sees drugs being labeled as something cool by all the movies and tv shows that he sees. Also, when you're 12, you get your sense of right and wrong from what you see. So how is a 12 year old to judge that drugs are bad when he sees his older cousins and friends taking them?

    In this discussion, you have forgotten the fact that drugs aren't just used by the poor, drug use is rampant in schools, colleges and universities. Being a university student, I can say that, in the educated class at least, drugs are used more as a recreational activity than as an escape from stress. Once you take out the source of the drugs, many will just stop using them. Unfortunately, the police are themselves involved, as they get a cut of the sales, and this too, I can confirm...

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