Best way to Die!!!

[Tulip]

that's sad Salma. How can anyone love death? :s Are you a muslim?

[friendlygal786]

yep niceguy is right friendlygyal
i love death!!

hey, dont say that...y do u lov death?

[*--Half_Dead--*]

lol, hey guys dont be serious
am joking, jus having a carry on

[friendlygal786]

lol...ok then poison will definetely do the job

[*--Half_Dead--*]

yeah i want some weird ideas aswell

[Endurer]

Quick cut and paste:

[hide] SUICIDE - Methods

1. HANGING

2 methods
1. asphyxiation (dangle on end of rope for 10 minutes)

Time: 5 to 10 minutes Available: Rope, solid support 10 foot above ground Certainty: Fairly certain (discovery, rope/support snapping) Notes: Brain damage likely if rescued. Very painful depending on rope. Most common effective form of suicide. See later "Asphyxiation" section. Someone did this about 10 meters from where I was sleeping once. Worked perfectly. 2. breaking neck

Time: Should be instant if it does break. See previous if not Available: Rope, solid support, 10 foot space below, several above Certainty: Very certain if the rope/support doesn't break Notes: Minimal danger of discovery (depends on location). Painless if you drop far enough (8 foot is optimum). Make sure that the rope is tied securely to something strong!! It has to support your weight multiplied by the force of the drop (in g). Use a hangman's knot (with the knot at the back of your neck).Calle: I got this table of appropriate falling heights from a.s.h. long-time regular MegaZone (megazone@wpi.wpi.edu), who got it from a friend of his named Mark.
Hanging Drop Heights...

Culprits Weight Drop
14 stone (196 lbs) 8ft 0in
13.5 stone (189 lbs) 8ft 2in
13 stone (182 lbs) 8ft 4in
12.5 stone (175 lbs) 8ft 6in
12 stone (168 lbs) 8ft 8in
11.5 stone (161 lbs) 8ft 10in
11 stone (154 lbs) 9ft 0in
10.5 stone (147 lbs) 9ft 2in
10 stone (140 lbs) 9ft 4in
9.5 stone (133 lbs) 9ft 6in
9 stone (126 lbs) 9ft 8in
8.5 stone (119 lbs) 9ft 10in
8 stone (112 lbs) 10ft 0in

Source: Charles Duff, Handbook of Hanging (Boston: Hale,
Cushman & Flint 1929)
Notes: This is for person of average build with no unusual physical problems. The Author (James ``Hangman'' Barry) noted that when executing ``persons who had attempted suicide by cutting their throats...to prevent reoping the wounds I have reduced the drop by nearly half.''
2. POISON

Availability of effective poisons restricted.
Normally painless, but depends on drug.
Large danger of discovery because slow.
Available compounds dangerous, have side effect if survived. Fairly common, usually ineffective (depends on drug, dose and luck). Takes from 10 seconds to fortnight or more.
In general, you need to stay away from medical help until you actually die, but there are exceptions to this (that have been pointed out in the text). Common drugs:
Cyanide (HCN/KCN)

Dosage: 50 mg Hydrogen Cyanide gas, 200-300 mg Cyanide salts Time: seconds for HC, minutes Cs (empty stomach) hours (full s) Available: very difficult to get hold of Certainty: very certain Notes: It helps to have an empty stomach (since the salts react with the stomach acids to form H.C.). A full stomach can delay death for up to four hours with the salts. Antidotes to cyanide poisoning exist, but they have serious side effects (they precipitate cyanide and similarly shaped molecules from the blood stream. This frequently blocks blood supply into toes, ears... so you could lose one or two if you are ``rescued''). What you can do, is instead of taking the salts directly, drop 500mg or so into a strong acid, and inhale the fumes. This will be pure Hydrogen Cyanide, and you should die in 10 to 20 seconds.The following is something I saw on the net: ``Hydrocyanic acid is one of the most poisonous substances known; the inhalation of its fumes in high concentration will cause almost immediate death. Hydrogen cyanide acts by preventing the normal process of tissue oxidation and paralyzing the respiratory center in the brain. Most of the accidental cases are due to inhaling the fumes during a fumigating process. In the pure state it kills with great rapidity. Crystalline cyanides, such as potassium or sodium cyanide are equally poisonous, since they interact with the hydrochloric acid in the stomach to liberate hydrocyanic acid. This poison has been used for both homicide and suicide; in recent history, a number of European Political figures carried vials of cyanide salt for emergency self-destruction aand some used them. Death resulted from amounts of only a fraction of a gram. A concentration of 1 part in 500 of hydrogen cyanide gas is fatal. Allowable working concen- tration in most of the United States is 20 ppm. Two and one-half grains of liquid acid has killed. The acid acts fatally in about 15 minutes. The cyanide salts kill in several hours. The average dose of the solution is 0.1 cc. Since this is an extremely rapid poison, rapid action is necessary. Occasionally the victim may make a few voluntary actions before death results or alarming symptoms set in. Death results from paralysis of the respiration. When a smaller dose is taken the symptoms are diziness, headache, and shortness of breath followed by convulsions, coma, and collapse.
If amyl nitrate is available, have the victim inhale it immediately for 20 seconds. Have the victim swallow 2 tablespoonfuls of hydrogen peroxide. Have the victim inhale ammonia. Administer oxygen.''
[ed - cure sounds pretty bad.. drink bleach?? yuk]
Aspirin (acetylsalicylic acid)

Dosage: 20-30+ grammes (too many cause vomitting) Time: hours to days, variable Available: easy to get hold of (get soluble ones, & dissolve them) Certainty: unreliable Notes: Not recommended, fatal dose varies wildly, could cause liver & kidney damage instead of death. OD causes strange noises in your ears (like a video arcade) & projectile vomiting after about 10 hours. Medical help generally effective, so stay out of hospital for a couple of days. May cause bleeding in your stomach/upper intestines. Take with sodium bicarbinate (eg, bicarb. of soda), which speeds up the absorbtion (sp?) significantly. Paracetamol (aka acet[a|yl]minopren / tylenol)

Dosage: 15+ grammes, 20+ is better Time: 10 hours fatal damage, but 2 weeks to actually die Available: easy to get hold of Certainty: fairly reliable Notes: Once 10-12 hours is up, you've had it, but you still live for a week or two after that. Probably better to wait 15 hours just to make sure. Horrible side effects during this time (some of which are: acute toxic hepatitis, renal failure, cerebral oedema, intra-abdominal bleeding, aspiration pneumonia, haemophilia). Too small dose causes severe liver damage. Accidental deaths are very common. Sleeping tablets

See later entries for amobarbital, butabarbital, diazepam, flurazepam, glutethimide, chloral hydrate, hydromorphone, meprobamate, methyprylon, meperidine (pethidine), methadone, morphine, orphenadrine, phenobarbital [also check trade names in same entries].
Alcohol (spirits preferably, your choice)

Dosage: 1/2 litre vodka?, similar. Varies from person to person. Time: about 8 hours Available: good Certainty: unreliable Notes: will cause liver and kidney damage if 'rescued' before death. Drink it all at the same time, quickly as possible. Dosage is questionable, I don't have any figures. Taking the spirits as an enema is supposed to be a very quick way of absorbing alcohol, but a less unpleasant way is to inject it. The dosage it takes to kill you depends on whether you drink normally, the state of your liver, whether you pass out on your back or not (and probably also the phase of the moon!). The following is from sci.med (on USENET): ``The fatal dose of pure alcohol in an average adult is 300-400 mL (750-1000 mL of 40% alcohol) if consumed in less than one hour. Apart from the effects of overdosage, death after alcohol consumption can occur as a result of choking on vomit while unconscious. I don't believe any permanent damage occured in the above case [ed - the poster was talking about a specific case of a single very heavy drinking session]. Consequences such as liver damage occur after chronic consumption.''Alcohol helps other drugs to dissolve. Don't drink it in advance, wash down tablets with it, & follow by drinking another few glasses of spirits.
Water

Dosage: gallons of the stuff (14 litres mentioned) Time: 12 hours or so? Available: always available unless you're in Kuwait. Certainty: so-so (not certain about this) Notes: works by washing out the salts in your body, until the cells fail (osmotic balance buggered up). You need to keep drinking continually until you collapse. Unusual method. Someone suggested it would also cause cramps. The following is something from A.S.H., Dec. 1990. ``About a year ago a local newspaper carried a story about a woman who had drunk herself to death. Apparently she had injested something mildly poisonous, and when she called her doctor asking him what to do, he told her to drink lots of water and see him in the morning. She got to it and managed to drink no less than 14 litres of water before the osmotic balance in her body was so upset it could no longer function and she died (don't know how quickly)''.Calle: The above anecdote originally came from me, and the death described occured in Växjö, Sweden. Unfortunately I no longer remember which newspaper I saw it in. Recently, I was told about a similar case in San Antonio. It supposedly happened a couple of years ago and was reported in the local San Antonio Express/News.
Bleach and other corrosives

Dosage: A bottle (litre or half litre) Time: Hours/days Available: Easily available Certainty: Uncertain Notes: Bloody painful - depends on your stomach getting corroded, the stomach acids escaping, and doing their dirty work in your vital organs. Not really my cup of tea...(?) says: ``I have heard of people throwing themselves through plate glass windows in their death agonies after drinking lye.''
Insulin (injected)

Dosage: No idea Time: Probably quite quickly into coma Available: Difficult to get hold of unless you're a diabetic or a vet Certainty: Very certain if dose is high enough & not discovered Notes: Supposed to be quite pleasant (eg insulin shock treatments used for some psychiatric condition). Petrol (in lungs/injected)

Dosage: ``A Thimble-full'' -20 ml? Time: Seconds/minutes Available: Common Certainty: I'm not sure of the dosage, but fairly certain if correct Notes: Can also use LPG (propane/butane) on skin surface (since these are light enough to go through the skin). Stick your hand in a bucket of propane and see how many seconds you last... Oil of Wintergreen/Methyl Salicylate (in lungs/injected)

Dosage: Probably similar to petrol (20 ml) Time: Don't know Available: Not available in concentration Certainty: Don't know Notes: Don't have enough information on this one to be able to say anything about it. Malathion (insecticide) (entry revised by Calle)

Dosage: A few bottles, at least Time: 2 to 3 hours Available: From a large garden centre or DIY shop Certainty: not so good Notes: A correspondent mentions that the LD50 of this stuff is 1 g/kg in rats, and adds that there is not nearly that much in a bottle. He also mentions that it is treatable. Instead of this, he recommends parathion, if you really want to use an insecticide.Drink undiluted, shake bottle first since it settles. It causes diarhoea after about half an hour.
Phosphine gas from aluminium phosphide pesticide (ALP)

Dosage: Single 3 gramme tablet (``... is enough to kill 10 people'') Time: About 2 hours Available: Difficult. Used in India, sold on black market. Certainty: Without medical help, and using fresh pill, very good Notes: This is a common way of committing suicide in Indian villages. There is no specific antidote to this. The pills are 3 grammes of ALP, which produces lethal phosphine gas when it comes in contact with hydrochloric acid or water in the stomach. After severe vomiting, the victim loses consciousness, the blood vessels rupture, and body cavities fill with blood. While the pill is exceedingly lethal, some escape death because the rate of the gas' release declines with the pill's age and use, and exposure to moisture. Trouble with this one is the availability, and it also looks like a rather unpleasant. Carbon Monoxide

Dosage: 5% concentration or so? Time: Minutes to hours depending on concentration Available: You get it out of a car exhaust, you used to be able to use ``town gas'' (eg, stick your head in the cooker) but this is no longer available Certainty: Fairly certain, as long as you aren't ``rescued'' Notes: Causes brain damage. Caffiene

Dosage: Depends on weight, but 10 grams should do the trick. Use more (15-20) to increase certainly. Time: I assume a couple of hours. Depending on method of consumption. Available: Caffiene tablets (Vivarin, No-Doz) available in Chemist shops, or Coffee/Tea Certainty: Not THAT reliable. The more you take the better the chance. Notes: Each Vivarin/No-Doz usually contains 200mg of caffeine, about 50 tablets for 10g worth. For coffee, it's about 100g per cup (about 8oz), more if from a perculator, less if instant. Tea is about 60-75g.Painful/annoying way to die. You'll get really, really, REALLY nervous and jittery - probably die of a heart attack or something.
Nitrogen gas (or other inert gas)

Dosage: Several litres uncompressed is minimum Time: Minutes Available: Try plumber, or welding supplies company Certainty: Certain Notes: This is really a form of asphyxiation, (see later), but is particularly good since you don't experience the lack of oxygen (what people really experience is the excess of carbon dioxide). Potassium Chloride (injected in solution) / KCl

Dosage: not known (try 20cc injection of strong solution) Time: Seconds to minutes Available: Widely available Certainty: Certain given correct dosage Notes: Causes heart attack (which is painful). May be difficult for coroner to realise it was suicide rather than a natural heart attack. An excess of K+ in the blood interferes with nerve signals, and stops muscles and nerves from working. So when it reaches your heart, the heart stops. Interesting to see what happens if you inject it into your carotid artery, if it stops nervous tissue from working. Rat poison (Warfarin)

Dosage: not known Time: Hours to terminal damage, days to actual death Available: Available Certainty: Certain given suffient dosage Notes: This is one of the truly unpleasant poisons, along with Paracetamol/Acetylminopren. I think it causes cerebral haemorage (rat poison works by giving the unfortunate rat haemophillia). Doctors can't do anything about it, they just leave you to die in agony on an intensive care ward. Chlorine gas

Dosage: not known - but probably sufficient generated in suggested method Time: not known Available: Get about 4 litres of concentrated bleach, and the same of ammonia Certainty: Good Notes: This was used in the first world war in the trenches, so it's got to be effective. You go into a small room, block off all the ventilation, and pour the bleach and ammonia into a bucket. This produces chlorine, you breath it in, and hey presto! I suspect that this is quite painful, if you are ``rescued'' there is a danger of either lung damage, or a slow lingering death. Digitalis (Foxglove extract?)

Dosage: not known Time: Probably minutes Available: Do foxgloves grow in your area? Certainty: probably good given sufficient dosage Notes: Gives you a heart-attack. Undetectable after death, so if you don't want to let your friends/relatives to know that your death was a suicide use this. I don't know how to extract digitalis from foxglove, nor do I know what the dosage is. Heart attacks are painful, but the advantages in using an undetectable method make this very attractive. Yew (Taxus Baccata, the ``English Yew'')

Dosage: not known Time: Can be very rapid (minutes), occasionally 3 or 4 days. Available: Grows wild in the UK, don't know about elsewhere. Certainty: not sure, but it sounds good if you eat enough Notes: (?): All parts of the plant, except for the fleshy red bit of the fruit, contain poisons. The seeds are poisonous, so if you eat the berries, chew them. Symptoms: nausea, abdominal pain, coma, death. The mode of death is a heart attack which occurs rapidly after eating sufficient. If no heart attack occurs, you'll probably survive. Sometimes the sudden collapse leading to death is preceded by lethargy, trembling, staggering, coldness, dilation of the pupils, rapid pulse that becomes weak, and convulsions. Other species in this genus are said to be equally poisonous. See ``plants in general''. Mezerein, Daphnetoxin (Mezereon, AKA Daphne Mezereum, AKA D. Laureola)

Dosage: ``a few''. Probably 10 or more. Time: not known Available: Garden plant. Seeds are particularly poisonous. Certainty: not known, dosage is questionable. Notes: (?): The berries taste horrid, but you only need to eat a few to cause death. Symptoms: burning sensation in mouth, nausea, vomiting, stomach pains, diarrhoea, weakness, disorientation, convulsions, followed by death. The seeds can be dried and stored without affecting the poisons. Don't confuse this with laurels in the Prunus genus, Rosacea family. See ``plants in general''. Atropine (Atropa Belladonna AKA Deadly Nightshade. Also potato fruits)

Dosage: 5 berries in young children.. maybe 30 in adults? Time: 6 to 24 hours Available: from fruits of some plants in the potato family. Certainty: unknown, particularly dosage is questionable Notes: (?): AB also contains hyoscyamine and hyoscine (scopolamine). Symptoms: dry mouth, flushed face, dilation of pupils, rapid pulse. Possibly also breathing difficulties, constipation, convulsions, hallucinations, and coma. AB is often confused with other Nightshade species, which aren't as poisonous. The berries are black in AB, and red in Woody Nightshade. In addition, the flowers are larger (1.2 in) in the true Deadly Nightshade. Present in unripe deadly nightshake fruits, fruits of potato, and fruits of other members of this family (not tomato though!), but stick with AB. See the "plants in general" entry. Calle: A correspondent mentions that Jimsonweed will also do, and that a specific antidote exists.
Oleander (Nerium Oleander. Poison similar to digitalis)

Dosage: not known, but fairly small amounts. Time: unknown. Available: leaves, wood of the plant. From garden centres. Certainty: unknown. Notes: (?): Deaths have been caused by using wood from this plant in fires, and making tea from the leaves. In a few hours there is abdominal pain, nausea, vomiting, bloody diarrhoea, rapid pulse, and visual effects. Later, a slow, weak, irregular pulse and fall in blood pressure, followed by failure of heart. See the ``plants in general'' entry. Death-Cap / Destroying-Angel toadstool (Amanita Phalloides)

Dosage: Fraction of one can kill, but eat 1 or 2 just in case. Time: Week or so Available: Have to know what it looks like.. similar edible ones Certainty: Definite without med. treatment; unknown with. Notes: (?): ``Poisoning by toxic Amanita species is characterised by a delay in onset of 4 to 12 hours. At this point, nausea vomiting, colic-like pain, and diarrhea occur. There then follows a period of respite, which can last for two to four days. This phase does NOT signify recovery: damage to the liver and kidneys continues to develop and the respite gives way to hepatic and renal failure. Death usually occurs a week or so after poisoning.'' See ``plants in general''. Ricin (Castor oil plant, Ricinus Communis)

Dosage: death has occured from eating 1 bean, but take more than 10 Time: within 3 to 5 days Available: From eating the castor beans Certainty: depends on ricin content of the beans. Pure ricin is deadly Notes: (?) and (?): Symptoms begin within a few hours with abdominal pain, vomiting and bloody diarrhoea for several days. Decreased production of urine and a fall in blood pressure. Note that people have survived eating more than 10 beans, with treatment. Presumably the fatal dose without medical intervention is less. Surviving more than 3 to 5 days usually means recovery. Ricin is described as ``..one of the most potent toxins known''. In 1978 a Bulgarian journalist (Georgi Markov) was assassinated in London by being prodded with an umbrella. The umbrella had a tiny ball coated with ricin on its tip, which lodged into the dissident. He died a few days later in hospital. See ``plants in general''. Chloroform

Dosage: not known, just put a splash onto a rag Time: several minutes probably Available: not known Certainty: good Notes: If you tape the rag over your mouth so that you get knocked out, you should die as you continue getting the stuff into your lungs. Colchicine (Acetyltrimethylcolchicinic acid)

Dosage: 7 mg to 60 mg Time: symptoms in about 4 hours, death in about 4 days Available: Easily available (from large garden centre) Certainty: certain Notes: From the Autumn crocus (Colchicum Autumnale) / royal lily (Gloriosa Superba). One flower of CA is about 12 mg, so take at least five of them. 20g tuber of GS provides 60mg, single seed of CA provides 3.5mg (so take 18). Damages blood vessels and nerves, and stops cell division. Don't know whether its painful or not, but that bit about damaging nerves is worrying. Best thing about this one is the name of the acid! Aconitine (AKA Wolfsbane, Monkshood, aconitum napellus, a. anglicum)

Dosage: ``a few grams'' Time: 10 mins to few hours Available: Garden plant, so get from garden centre Certainty: unknown (can be treated in hospital) Notes: (?) and (?): The poison is concentrated in the unripe seed pods and roots. During winter, the roots are particularly poisonous. Symptoms develop in less than an hour. Burning sensation, feelings of coldness, sweating. Later, numbness, vomiting and diarrhoea with abdominal pain. Finally, slow pulse, convulsions and coma. Death may occur within 2 hours. The poison kills by causing a cardiac failure, and it is painful. See the ``plants in general'' comment. Cicutoxin (Cowbane, Cicuta Virosa)

Dosage: ``.. a few bites .. can cause serious poisoning or death''. Time: a few hours or more. Available: rare in most parts of UK, don't know about elsewhere. Certainty: good, but resembles wild carrot & wild parsnip. Notes: (?): The poison is strongest in the yellow juice of the underground parts. Symptoms after half an hour: burning of mouth, excessive saliva, flushing, nausea, vomiting, dizziness, dilation of pupils, and later a bluish tinge to the skin. Muscular contractions and convulsions, with difficulties in breathing are followed by unconsciousness and death, often within a few hours of eating the plant. See ``plants in general''. Coniine, Gamma-Coniceine, others (Hemlock, Conium Maculatum)

Dosage: unknown Time: unknown Available: Grows throughout UK, except north. Don't know about elsewhere. Certainty: unknown Notes: (?): Note: There are many plants called ``hemlock'', some of which aren't poisonous at all. It can also be mistaken for wild parsley and carrot, and is in the same family as Cowbane. Symptoms appear in 15 mins to 2 hours. Initially burning and dryness of the mouth, muscular weakness leading to paralysis that affects the breathing. Sometimes also dilation of pupils, vomiting, diarrhoea, convulsions, and loss of consciousness. If this is survived, birth defects may be caused in pregnant women. This is said to be the plant that Socrates took in 399 BC. Oenanthetoxin (Hemlock Water Dropwort, Oenanthe Eroeata)

Dosage: ``..dangerously poisonous, even in small quantities''. Time: Two to twelve hours. Available: Grows in chalky wet areas, particularly S and W Britain. Certainty: Fairly good, if you get the right species. Notes: (?): The tubers contain more poison than the rest of the plant, particularly in winter and early spring, and may be cooked or dried. Symptoms within an hour or two, nausea, salivation, vomiting, diarrhoea, sweating, weakness of legs, dilation of pupils. Later loss of consciousness with convulsions before death. See ``plants in general'' entry. Same family as Hemlock. plants in general (hemlock, foxglove, oleander)

Dosage: N/A Time: N/A Available: garden centre Certainty: questionable Notes: (?) says: ``Everything I have ever read about death from plant poisoning indicates that it is risky and painful. Symptoms range from nausea and vomiting to cramping and bloody diarrhea. ... Altogether, I consider poisonous plants as a means of exit far too unreliable and painful. No matter how desperate you are, don't even think about it!'' Nicotine (yep - distilled fags!)

Dosage: extract from 100g tabacco. 40-60 mg pure. Time: everal hours, coma may set in much earlier. Much quicker if taken in large doses. Available: Easily available Certainty: Fairly certain, given a large enough dose. Notes: Soak 100 grammes of tabacco for a few days. You get a brown mess. Strain off the tabacco, then simmer slowly until most of the liquid has gone, leaving about 2 teaspoons of brown treacle-like stuff. Add it to your night-time drink, and never wake up. Someone said the other day that 150mg of pure nicotine would be fatal in seconds.It is correct, as far as I have found out. It can be added that the effects include violent convulsions and that the direct cause of death is respiratory failure. Smokers should use larger doses than non-smokers.
Hydrazine

Dosage: As produced by reaction Time: Not known, fortnight? Available: Bottle of bleach & bottle of ammonia Certainty: not known Notes: Something quoted verbatim from the net: ``This is no joke, Dale. Several years ago at my high school, one of the janitors innocently mixed together half a bottle of bleach with half a bottle of of ammonia in a small closet where the cleaning fluids were kept. He passed out due to the hydrazine (not chlorine) gas released in the reaction between the two chemicals. This man was in agony for two weeks in an intensive care unit in a local hospital with the majority of the inside surface of his lungs damaged and untreatable before he got lucky and died.''
[ed - one of the more nasty methods] Cocaine

Dosage: 1 ounce (don't know what that is in real weights..) Time: 2 to 3 hours? Available: Difficult Certainty: not known Notes: Read something in a newspaper... a coke dealer died after eating an ounce of it, when the police raided his house. Cause of death was a cardiac arrest 2 1/2 hours after the overdose. Iron (diet suppliments)

Dosage: unknown Time: unknown Available: diet, health food shops Certainty: good Notes: (?): ``Well it seems that iron pills achieve death. They oxydize in the stomach and eat a hole in it. The only reason I know this is that someone at my school just recently OD'd and died from this. It was ruled suicide since no person could accidently take that many iron pills. They didn't say how many she took or how many it takes to kill yourself though.'' [sounds unpleasant] LSD (Lysergic acid diethylamide) nonfatal

Dosage: infinite! Time: never Available: who cares? Certainty: will not kill you Notes: LSD can't kill you by overdose.. you might go psychotic if you take tens/hundreds of thousands of times the normal dose, but thats hardly surprising, since you'd have to be insane to take that much in the first place. General warning - even for normal use, if you are depressed, it'll just amplify the depression, not lift it, and the chances of a bad trip are probably higher. Probably, the only way to kill yourself with this stuff is to drop two tonnes of it on yourself.Calle: I don't quite believe in what Mike is saying about psychosis here. As far as I have been able to find out, LSD works by catalyzing certain substances in the brain, and thus vast overdoses have no more effect than merely large ones. Once all the stuff in your brain is used up, there will be no more effect.
A correspondent points out a case reported by The Journal of Clinical Toxicology where eight people snorted pure LSD Tartrate, beliving that it was cocaine. The amounts ingested was estimated to be from 1000 to 10000 times an ordinary dose. Half of them lapsed into comas, but all of them came out of it without any treatment. Some were given Valium for anxiety efterwards.
On the whole, it seems that LSD is about as safe as a drug can be, despite much propaganda saying otherwise.
Heroin (morphine)

Dosage: 120 to 500 mg in non-users. Time: unknown Available: From your friendly neighbourhood drug dealer. Certainty: unknown Notes: Combine it with alcohol, since a combination of alc & H is much more dangerous than alc or H alone. Rotenone

Dosage: very low, similar to cyanide Time: depends on dosage Available: extremely difficult Certainty: probable Notes: Rotenone is used by microbiologists to kill potentially dangerous bacteria cultures. It is extremely poisonous.Calle: A correspondent believes this entry to be erroneous, since in the litterature he consulted rotenone was mentioned as being used as an insecticide and not being all that toxic.
Mercury (salts, soluble)

Dosage: 1 gramme of salts Time: unknown Available: unknown (what are the soluble salts? how to make?) Certainty: good Notes: Note that contrary to popular opinion, pure mercury metal isn't all that poisonous. The soluble salts are, however. The ``mad hatter'' story refers to brain damage that hat makers used to get from using mercury salts. Amobarbital (amytal, amal, eunoctal, etamyl, stadadorm)

Dosage: 4.5 grammes, typically 90 50mg tablets Time: unconscious in 5 -> 15 minutes, death in 20 -> 50 minutes Available: needs to be prescribed Certainty: very reliable Notes: use an airtight plastic bag, and a rubber band to get a very effective method. Alcohol speeds it up and makes it more reliable. Take an antihistamine about 10 minutes earlier. Empty stomach. Dissolve most of them in drink / food, and eat the remaining ones first so that it all peaks at the same time. Butabarbital (secbutobarbitone, butisol, ethnor)

Dosage: 3 grammes, typically 100 30mg tablets Time: unconscious in 5 -> 15 minutes, death in 20 -> 50 minutes Available: needs to be prescribed Certainty: very reliable Notes: use bag & band. Alcohol as well as antihistamine on an empty stomach. Codeine (combo. with Aspirin: Empirin compound no. I -> IV)

Dosage: 2.4 grammes, typically 80 30mg tablets Time: unconscious in 5 -> 15 minutes, death in 20 -> 50 minutes Available: needs to be prescribed Certainty: reliable with plastic bag and rubber band Notes: use bag & band. Alcohol as well as antihistamine on an empty stomach. People can become tolerant to this drug, and it will no longer be effective. Diazepam (valium, apozepam, aliseum, ducene)

Dosage: 500 milligrammes, typically 100 5mg tablets Time: N/A Available: needs to be prescribed Certainty: unreliable, use in combination with something else (alcohol?) Notes: use bag & band. Alcohol as well as antihistamine on an empty stomach. Valium is not effective by itself, but by mixing it with other drugs or alcohol it makes it more certain. Flurazepam (dalmane, dalmadorm, niotal)

Dosage: 3 grammes, typically 100 30mg tablets Time: N/A Available: needs to be prescribed Certainty: unreliable, use in combination with something else Notes: use bag & band. Alcohol as well as antihistamine on an empty stomach. This is not effective by itself, but by mixing it with other drugs or alcohol it makes the other drug more certain. 3. JUMPING OFF BUILDINGS

Time: Instantanious if you are lucky, minutes/hours otherwise Available: You need ten stories or higher, and access to the top floor windows/roof. Bring a bolt cutter to get onto the roof Certainty: 90% for 6 stories, increasing after that Notes: Difficult to overcome fear of heights, many people can't do it. Totally painless if high enough, but very frightening. Easily discovered if seen on/near roof/windows. Access fairly easy in a city, otherwise difficult. Risk of spending the rest of your life in a wheelchair. Ever tried killing yourself if you are paralysed from the neck down? Email conversations suggest 10+ stories works almost all of the time. Try to land on concrete. Quote - ``9 out of 10 people who fall 6 stories will die'' 4. SLITTING WRISTS OR OTHER (pathetic)

Time: Minutes if major artery cut, eternity otherwise Available: You really need a razor sharp knife. Razors are pretty tricky to hold when they are covered with blood Certainty: Uncertain if you cut an artery, highly improbable otherwise Notes: Painful at first. Danger of discovery. This is a very common suicide `gesture' and hardly ever results in anything other than a scar. A lot of will power required to cut deeply into groin or carotid arteries, which are the only ones likely to kill you. Don't bother with this method. Cutting your throat is difficult due to the fact that the carotid arteries are protected by your windpipe (feel where your arteries are with your fingertips, & slice from the side). I've seen photos of people who have used this method - the depth of the cut required is amazing. If you want to cut your wrists, cut along the blue line (vein) on the underside of your wrist, but cut deeply so that the artery underneath is exposed. Cut this lengthways with a razor or similar. The traditional hot bath does help, since it keeps the blood flowing quickly, slows down clotting, and is nice to lie back and relax in. Position yourself so that your wrists don't fall inwards against your body, blocking off blood flow. 5. BULLET

Time: Microseconds unless you are unlucky (mins/hours) Available: Difficult in UK, easier in USA (get a shotgun) Certainty: Certain Notes: Painless if worked, otherwise painful & brain damage. Danger of discovery of weapon or ammunition.
Not at all common in UK, more common in USA where guns available. Brain damage & other effects if you survive. Death either instantaneous, or prolonged.
Lots of will power needed to fire gun ('hesitation marks' are bullets/pellets embedded in the wall, when you jerk the gun as you fire). Bullet can miss vital parts in skull, deflect off skull.Note: fill mouth with water, aim about 45 degrees from vertical, this is reliable* since shockwave from water will kill instantly.
Note: several people have suggested that this is unreliable. See "Shotgun" below (since much more effective).
Ammunition to use is: .458 Winchester Magnum, or soft-point slugs with .44 Magnum. Also you could use a sabot round, which is a plastic wedge with a smaller thing in it. These rounds are rather overkill, the phrase "elephant gun" has been used about the .458 Winchester, but if you're going to go, do it with a bang.
6. ASPHYXIATION

Time: 5 mins to unconciousness, 10+ mins to brain death Available: Anywhere there's a rope and something solid to tie it to Certainty: Certain, if yoou don't get ``rescued'' Notes: Panic reaction is very likely (unless inert gasses used). One of the most effective and most used methods of suicide. Probable brain damage if you are ``rescued''.Note, this can only really be done in two ways: firstly, when you are unconsious (eg, sleeping pills), or secondly, by hanging. Combining with pure inert gasses is a very good suggestion. See "Nitrogen" in the poisons section
7. AIR IN VEINS (basically just a myth)

Time: Eternity Available: Plenty of air about... Need a hypodermic & stringe Certainty: Almost zero (you might catch something from the needle) Notes: This doesn't work, unless you inject absolutely massive amounts of air (it all goes out of the lungs). Myth caused by the way that doctors squirt a syringe before using it to get rid of contaminants. If you have to try it, go for the carotid artery, since this goes to the brain. If you want a heart attack, you will have to inject something on the order of 20-50ml every heart-beat (these are ball-park figures) for several heart beats. Good luck! 8. DECAPITATION

Time: Couple of seconds before conciousness fades Available: Happen to have a train line nearby? Or a guillotine perhaps? Certainty: Very certain, unless you pull away just before Notes: See ``jumping in front of trains''. May be difficult to stop pulling your head out of the way - OD on sleeping tablets first 9. DISEMBOWELMENT (aka seppuku/hara kiri)

Time: Minutes Available: Got a nice razor-sharp sword? Certainty: Fairly certain, assuming that you managed to gut yourself properly before passing out with the agony Notes: Painful, even the Samurai used a 'second' to decapitate them at the appropriate point, so don't expect to do much more than give yourself peritonitis. Trendy for insane martial arts fanatics and gay Japanese poets called Mishima. 10. DROWNING

Time: Minutes (usually 5 mins, but up to 20 mins in cold water) Available: Anywhere there's deep water in a remote spot Certainty: Good, just make sure you sink & can't swim Notes: Put stones in your pockets, tie your legs & hands together, and hop into the lake.. bit of a shock to the fisherman who finds your rotting corpse stuck in his brand new net. 11. ELECTROCUTION

Time: Seconds / minutes Available: Anywhere with high-tension, high-current lines & a good earth Certainty: Somewhat dependant on luck & how much power goes through you Notes: Don't bother with 110 or 240 volt mains, its just not enough. Some people do get killed with household electricity, but only after several minutes. Use high tension lines, stand in bare feet on waterlogged ground (better still, but a piece of THICK copper cable into the nearest river). Works best if current path travels through your head, or through the heart. Just burns you badly otherwise. 12. EXPLOSIVES

Time: 10 milliseconds, or similar (!) Available: Difficult to get hold of detonator & good explosives Certainty: Certain if detonator works properly Notes: Don't use gunpowder or other `slow' explosives (eg, homemade explosives). Use dynamite or `Plastique', strap it to your forehead with the detonator, and BOOM! The main problem is with getting hold of high explosives (I know the recipe for Nitro-Glycerine, but home manufacture is extremely risky, and the product is unstable). If you can get a grenade, use it, it's probably the best way of doing this one. 13. FREEZING TO DEATH

Time: several hours (15 minutes in very cold water) Available: Got a large chest freezer? Is the outside temp <-10 degrees? Certainty: good if you don't get found Notes: Soak your cloths in water, get into freezer / outside somewhere where you won't be found. Helps to get pissed first - drink yourself silly. If you are near a very cold supply of water (eg, the North Sea, or similar) which is close to zero degrees, this is particularly good, since the average lifespan of someone in the water is 15 minutes. 14. JUMPING IN FRONT OF TRAINS

Time: Seconds (or hours if unlucky) Available: Anywhere near a high-speed railway line Certainty: Depends on your timing & speed of train. Go for decapitation Notes: Probably better to put your neck on the line, since a glancing blow would probably break your spine (& cripple you). High speed trains need a kilometer to stop, so find a blind corner. A friend's cousin did this, worked well. 15. SELF-IMMOLATION

Time: Seconds to days Available: Anywhere you can get petrol & a match Certainty: good as long as you are far away from medical help Notes: bloody painful - one of the most agonising ways to die. If you do survive, you will be disfigured for the rest of your life.Try mixing the petrol with an explosive like TNT or NG, this will make it burn much quicker, even if the explosive is very dilute. My Dad worked at a dynamite factory, and knew someone who used to put TNT into his car (1 teaspoon per gallon). It burned out the engine in a couple of months.
16. STARVING TO DEATH

Time: Typically a month, although depends on your health to start with, and how much fat is available Available: Anywhere where you can't be force-fed Certainty: Certain as long as you never get any medical help (this is trickier than it sounds) Notes: Supposed to be easier after the first couple of days, since your appetite goes. In a UK prison, you can't be force-fed unless you give permission first, or are diagnosed insane, but I don't know whether this is the same in other countries. Beware - relatives might give permission on your behalf if you are unconsious. 17. DRIVING INTO BRIDGE SUPPORT AT 100 MPH

Time: Hopefully instantanious Available: Fast car, motorway, unprotected bridge... Certainty: So-so, put a couple of cans of petrol on the passenger seat to make it certain, & use your seatbelt. Notes: Bridges are usually protected in the UK, don't know about USA. Avoid being thrown out of the car by using the seatbelt, and put petrol (in cans or just splashed about) near to the driver's seat just to make certain. 18. SHOTGUN

Time: Instantanious if you are lucky Available: Difficult in UK, easier in USA (due to gun laws) Certainty: Fairly certain Notes: 12-gauge shotgun with 3 inch Magnum shells with #2 to #000 buckshot. See ``Bullet'' for other points. This is the recommended way to die by firearm. Apparently the shells suggested here are ``extreme overkill'', but thats the point really... 19. ENLIST (silly)

Time: Jan 15 or later Available: Just pop down to the local army office & sign on as a squaddie Certainty: Be a ``hero''. Life expectancy in a battle is 20 minutes. Notes: I don't think this is an entirely serious suggestion, particularly since only 10% ever see the front line, and only a few of those ever see combat. 20. PENCILS UP YOUR NOSE, BANG DOWN ONTO TABLE

Time: Seconds or never Available: All you need is a couple of sharp pencils and a table Certainty: Very uncertain Notes: This is a myth, I think, since the pencils would go into your frontal lobes, which are basically optional! This is the legendary ``exam suicide''. Fine if you want a DIY frontal-lobotomy rather than death! 21. GETTING SOMEONE TO MURDER YOU

Time: Depends on method used Available: Know any murderous psychopaths? No, not the tax people... Certainty: Depends on method used, & dedication of murderer Notes: Forget it. Unless you contract someone to do it, the chances are that you are going to wake up in hospital without your wallet. If you do contract someone, how are you going to pay them? Can't take them to court for running off with your money and not doing the job. 22. MAKE YOURSELF INTO AN H-BOMB (another silly one)

Time: Speed of light over 1/2 metre (couple of nanoseconds) Available: Nuke (fission OR fusion), 10 litres of heavy water Certainty: 100% Notes: Drink the heavy water for several days, strap yourself to the nuke, and press the button. If you retained a couple of litres of the heavy water, the additional yield should be .02 * c2 (joules?). The problem here is getting hold of the nuke without anyone noticing. If you are discovered before you trigger the gadget, the city authorities are liable to be somewhat irate. Also heavy water is a poison, so you might not survive that long anyway. 23. MICROMACHINES/NANOCOMPUTERS (science fiction)

Time: years or a fraction of a second - depends how you look at it Available: in 50 years time? Certainty: Good assuming that the technology is developed Notes: Basically, this involves a `replicator' panel. You program it to replicate yourself, simplifying very slightly, with the exception of the urge to use this technique. After a while, you turn into a mindless zombie, trudging around from the exit of the machine to the entrance, for eternity. Strange philosophical implications. 24. SCUBA-DIVING (various fatal `accidents')

Time: see notes -most are minutes/hours Available: scuba diving gear, nobody around Certainty: see notes Notes: The first method is to rise 30 metres or so without releasing your breath. Assuming that you can do it, it should cause your lungs to burst. The second is the bends - stay under long enough for the nitrogen to dissolve (30 metres for 30 minutes). go up rapidly without decompression time. This is unreliable, and may cause brain / joint damage. The third way is Carbon Monoxide poisoning - fill your tank with it, and stay away from other divers. You will fall asleep fairly quickly. See CO in poisons section. The final way is oxygen narcosis - however, this means that you have to go very deep with an oxygen-rich mix, and there are problems associated with that. The advantage of these methods is that insurance companies / relatives will assume that it was an accident (`misadventure'), with the possible exception of the CO poisoning.The source of this follows: (from the net)
``Rising 30m without exhaling will usually result in an over pressured lung, possible subcuteaneous emphazema, collapsed lung, death usually from drowning in your own blood. Rather painful and usually curable if you are rescued, but fair chance of dying if you aren't.
Building up a high residual nitrogen time (say 30m for 30 min) then coming up without decompressing will get you bent fairly nicely. You don't feel much, but your joints tend to start stiffening up after half an hour. Death is very uncertain, coming from a stroke. Brain damage, joint damage etc are most likely. Pobably can be recued but some damage certain. Oxygen poisoning, going down 50+m until the partial pressure of the oxygen reaches a toxic level. Difficult to accomplish, very painful to get down that deep, cold pressure etc, possibility of nitrogen narcosis and forgetting what you are doing. Probably get bent, good chance of rescue.
CO poisoning, mix a healthy batch of carbon monoxide in your tank as you dive, you tend to go to sleep under water, when combined with the above methods you have a pretty good winner, don't forget to forget your BCD.''
[ed - whats a BCD?]
25. SUCKING YOUR BRAINS OUT

Time: Minutes Available: You'd need a PumaTM robot, & some other bits Certainty: certain, given proper programming Notes: You would need an industrial robot to do this properly. Give it a saw attachment, a sucking tube attachment, and program it. Make a head restraint. When you are fixed securely into the restraint, start the robot's program. It will drill a hole in your head, and stick the tube into the hole. Program it to wiggle the tube back and forth so that it doesn't miss anything. This might work better if you put a stream of water into the hole as well, so that the sucking attachment doesn't just suck air all the time. Debugging the program could be amusing. 26. MICROWAVES

Time: ? Available: Source of strong microwave emissions Certainty: ? Notes: ? 27. DEHYDRATION

Time: a week or so. Available: you need to be able to stop medical help. Certainty: certain if your will-power stands up to it. Notes: Don't eat or drink. Remember that food contains a high proportion of water. Avoiding medical help can be difficult. 28. SKYDIVING `ACCIDENT'

Time: pretty damn quick. Available: need to join a skydiving club. Certainty: certain. Notes: Join a skydiving club, continue to practise it for a while to clear off all suspicions and then once pack your parachute in a real mess (preferably knotted up, but not too clearly) and then jump. The para will not open and you will reach a terminal velocity of 220 km/h (160 mph/120 kn). Death is instant in the impact with the Planet Earth.
This has the advantages of being `accidental', and your family/friends do not have the additional pain and guilt associated with suicides. 29. DEATH BY A THOUSAND CUTS; MODERN VERSION

Time: variable Available: a heck of a lot of razor-wire.. maybe a high-voltage supply Certainty: not very good Notes: This is a modern variant of the Arabic `Death of a thousand cuts'. Basically, jump onto a stack of unravelled razor wire, and roll around till you die.. it may help to connect a high- voltage, low current power supply to the wire, so that you have spasms, which should keep you getting cut even when you are unconscious. Also, you should make sure that you can't roll off the wire. 30. CRUSHING

Time: seconds to minutes, depends on car press Available: a car press.. any good junkyard Certainty: certain as long as you can't escape Notes: This is an elegantly simple one.. get into a car, in a car press, and shortly afterwards be squashed to death as your body is converted into a red pulp. It may be tricky getting the press to trigger, but if you hide in the car someone may come along and activate it. There are other ways of getting crushed, this just happens to be the most effective I can think up on the spur of the moment. Getting yourself run over by a fully loaded articulated lorry is quite good. You should remember that people quite often survive the actual crushing; they die when the weight is taken OFF them. 31. WORLD WAR THREE

Time: moments if you are near a militarilly significant site Available: happen to be one of the `key-holders'? president maybe? Certainty: pretty certain Notes: All you have to do is trigger world war three. Fire an ICBM or three at the Chinese and the Russians... This method has the advantage that you take everyone else with you! Trouble is, the number of people with the requisite access is minimal, and I sort of doubt that any readers of ASH can do this. 32. HEATSTROKE

Time: 4 hours or more Available: Very hot day; no disturbance from neighbours etc. Certainty: depends on the weather Notes: Basically, the point is to give yourself extreme heatstroke. You should pass out after a few hours. Use some aluminium foil to direct the sun's heat onto you, to speed up the process a bit. Try to reduce the chance of being interuppted, take off the phone etc. Obviously, start in the morning! Helps if the outside temperature is >100F. 33.ACID BATH

Time: depends on acid Available: a lot of a very strong acid Certainty: fairly good Notes: [from alt.suicide.holiday]
``summer heat got you down? Try the new and improved neighbourhood acid bath. Most metal working plants and some auto-repair shops will have a nice soothing acid bath. This, of course, is for those of you who enjoy extreme pain and don't want to make a mess for others to clean up. If you don't leave a note chances are they will never know what happened, aside from the shop / plant being broken into.'' 34.FAKE CAR BOMB

Time: milliseconds Available: explosive Certainty: fairly good if enough explosive Notes: This is a modification of the basic use-explosives method. What you do, is make a homemade car bomb, and drive off happily after chatting with your neighbour about how well your life is going, apart from a few minor death-threats from an Iraqi death-squad... To confuse the authorities even more, have a note in your pocket listing the telephone numbers of all the eastern foreign embassies in your pocket, together with a little line of random ``code numbers'' next to each..., and a random but large amount of cash listed against each code number. :-) Oh yes, and a heavily annotated copy of Jane's Defence Weekly - Xhosa edition. 35.JUMPING OFF BRIDGES (slice and dice with piano wire)

Time: 9.87 ms-2; 4 to 10 meters; calculate it yourself! Available: Rope, pianowire and a high bridge. Certainty: Fairly certain Notes: Never been tried. Can also be used with a fairly high building, but then the art-motive will disappear. Cut the rope and wire in various lengths. Each length must not be longer than the height of the bridge. Tie one end of the ropes and wires to the bridge Tie the other part of the ropes to different bodyparts like thigh, calves, torso etc. Then tie the pianowires around your joints. (Don't forget your genitals...) When you jump various parts of you body are whipped away by the pianowire nooses, and your bits are held up by the ropes swaying in the breeze. If you to this right you should end up with just your torso hanging by it's neck above the sea, highway, ground.
Do it with friends, and call it art. 36.BEING EATEN ALIVE

Time: depends, but probably a couple of minutes Available: zoo, or live in Africa/wherever Certainty: not brilliant... what if they're not hungry and don't finish? Notes: basically, find one or more hungry carnivores... tigers are nice. Also, sharks, lions, any of the big cats... 37.BEING BURNED UP IN UNPROTECTED RE-ENTRY (silly)

Time: probably a few minutes Available: if you happen to be able to get into orbit Certainty: about as certain as you can get! Notes: Just go for a spacewalk in a low earth orbit, and decelerate enough to enter the atmosphere. You'll get a great view... 38.ACQUIRED IMMUNE DEFICIENCY SYNDROME (AIDS)

Time: Incubation period 1 to 10 years, death within 2 years of diagnosis of AIDS, Can have HIV for years/decades Dosage: Just one intimate contact with an Infected person of any gender Available: Available to all for free Certainty: 99.9% certainty after infected Notes: (?): This is not painfree. This method may cost you alot of money if you allow others to get you medical attention. It may a little difficult to get infected as people who know they have it may not comply with your request. Could be great fun attempting to get infected depending upon your attitude (remember - any gender - you don't have to limit yourself - you're going to die, you might as well try it . Should be quite devasting to your family & close friends. You also get the satisfaction of leaving behind a virtual unrecognizable-as-you body! This also gives you the prime opportunity to point your finger at your dentist and say he did it for all the times you have suffered in their chair. Happy dying!Calle: May not be so certain any more. Ten years may well be long enough for someone to develop a cure.
Silly, IMHO.
39.AUTO-DECAPITATION BY CAR (added by Calle)

Time: Real quick Available: You need access to a car and a rope Certainty: I wouldn't trust it Notes: Comes from alt.suicide.holiday. Basic idea is to tie one end of the rope around your neck, tie the other end to a real solid object, get into the car and accelerate away as fast as the car can manage. When you reach the end of the rope, your head gets torn off. Be sure to use enough rope and fasten your seat belt.A posting to a.s.h. in July 1993 says that someone in Washinton State, USA actually used this method to commit suicide, so it can't be that bad. The posting said that 25 feet of rope were used (about 7.5 meters), which does sound a bit short. Perhaps he had a real awesome car.
40.NITROUS OXIDE (N20, Laughing Gas)

Dosage: Several Liters uncompressed Time: unconscious in about 5 min, death 10 -> 15 min Availability: Dentists supply would be good, any other technical-gases supplier, cream charges (drugstore or something like that) Certainty: reasonable Notes: combination with marijuana recommended absolutely painless method! N2O is normally used as an analgesic, but may also be ``mis''used as a drug (to get ``high'') or to ``off'' yourself. It may be purchased at a technical-gases supplier (if they ask for the purpose: tell them you need it for car-tuning (laughing-gas injection (no joke!))).
I asked for it at a German gas-supplier (Messer-Griesheim) and they told me that the smallest gas-bottle is about 8kg N2O (which is equal to 4m3). It would cost about 156,- DM per 8 kg (about 15$ per 1kg, prices may differ). Recommended for more comfort: ask them about a pressure reducer (better control of gas-flow).For best results, take someting like a breathing-mask (anything similar will do) to make sure to still inhale the gas after becoming unconscious. You may start with a small N2O concentration (simply lift the mask a little so you get fresh air with the N2O) and increase it until you breathe pure N2O. By the way: N2O tastes sweet (but no calories I suppose
When 20mg N2O are solved in your blood (after about 10 breaths), the effect sets in. If you inhale the gas long enough, so that about 60mg N2O are solved in the blood, you will fade without the slightest pain from life to death.
60eam charges every time... You may achieve this by filling the contents of the cream charges into a balloon (a big one!) and inhale and exhale into the balloon. The only problem is, that you get difficulties holding the balloon properly to your mouth after you inhaled some times!
Part of this information taken from: ``Suicide, Mode d'Emploi'' Claude Guillon, Yves Le Bonniec (pages 176/177 in the German edition)
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[niceguy]

woah, acid bath is prbly the most painful

[*--Half_Dead--*]

endurer that is like...:wahat;
i could not read that much in my life
i will die jus readin that, why need other ideas

[niceguy]

it would be pretty painful if suicide by pencil through the nose failed

[dsjeya]

jump in front of a train after it stopped