Lal Masjid & Jamia Hafsa Islamabad Issue

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  1. Endurer

    Endurer Senior Moderator

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    These are the different sides of the same story. No matter what the allegations, no matter what the intentions, policies, or actions; those threats issued by Abdul Aziz are not to be taken lightly. We all know how dirty it can turn out to be, when it comes to these fanatic child abusers sitting in madrassahs.
  2. Endurer

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    See, thats what happens when you let them have it their way. These fanatics managed to have 10 (and counting) people killed in what appears to be a shootout outside the Red Mosque.

    These cowards from the madrassa are using women and children as bait. They have issued suicide bomb attack threats to the entire nation. Now who is to blame here? These so-called mullahs should be killed by the armed forces / law enforcement agencies.

    I don't know why Musharraf is taking no action? No minister has spoken so far on the issue and I haven't seen any official statements issued. It's the capital of the country and these bigots have set 15 cars, three government buildings (including the ministry of environment) to fire. They're a grave threat to national security & integrity.

    Now look at the pictures I took from Geo tv today; these people have the best of weapons, lots of ammo, suicide bombers, and masks. (One wonders where'd they get it from)

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    BTW, there are reports that rangers killed CNBC Pakistans' camera-man.
  3. moments

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    لال مسجد عرصہ دراز سے ایک حساس مسئلہ بنتا جا رہا تھا۔ ہر کوئی پریشان تھا۔منگل کی صبح سے لال مسجد کی انتظامیہ اور رینجرز کے درمیان اچانک فائرنگ کا سلسلہ شروع ہوگیا۔ اب تک کئی ہلاکتیں ہوچکی ہیں اور بہت سے زخمی ہوچکے ہیں۔اس سلسلہ میں پہلے بھی کافی کوششیں کی گئیں لیکن یہ مسئلہ حکومت اور لال مسجد کی انتظامیہ کے درمیان ایک متنازعہ شکل اختیار کرگیا ہے۔ موجودہ صورتحال انتہائی تشویشناک ہے۔ ہمارے ملک میں تحمل و برداشت افہام و تفہیم سے کام لینے کا جذبہ ماند پڑگیا ہے۔ اب آئندہ کیا ہوگا؟ کچھ نہیں کہا جاسکتا۔سیاسی و مذہبی جماعتوں کو چاہئے اس نازک وقت میں آگے بڑھ کر ملک میں افراتفری کو بڑھنے سے روکیں اور حکومت کو بھی چاہئے کہ اس سے پہلے کہ وقت ہاتھ سے نکل جائے اس طرح کا کشت و خون ساری دنیا میں ہمیں دہشت گردی کے خلاف جنگ کی بجائے ہمیں اس طرف دھکیل رہا ہے جہاں ہم سوائے شرمندگی کے کچھ حاصل نہ کرسکیں۔ جامع حفصہ اور لال مسجد میں کئی ہزار طالبات اور طلباء رینجرز سے مقابلہ کر رہے ہیں کہ جیسے ہم کسی اندرونی جنگ میں الجھ کر رہ گئے ہیں۔ ہم اپنی انگلیاں خود ہی جلا رہے ہیں۔ کسی اور کو کیا کہیں۔ اپنے ہی گھر کو جلتا دیکھ رہے ہیں جو انتہائی خوفناک اور مایوس کن صورتحال ہے۔ کوئی تو آگے بڑھ کر اس آگ کو ٹھنڈا کرے۔ ساری دنیا کے مسلمان اس سے کیا نتیجہ اخذ کریں گے۔مغربی دنیا کیا کہے گی ؟
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  4. glimmering_candle

    glimmering_candle New Member

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    so wat do think is it goin' right???
  5. manni9

    manni9 New Member

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    yes i think Goverment is doing right thing.
    Ager woh loog theek hoote tou ittni jaanain khatre main daal ke baad Burkha pehen ker bhaagne ki koshish nahi kerte :s
  6. Quiet Whisper

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    Exactly. These people tried to create a state within a state, and this mosque was being used to plan against the government. These idiots and religious fanatics are burning up their own country and city and spreading violence just so they can cash in when they get the MMA in power. Those idiots are just that. IDIOTS.

    Nail em all to a wall and let crows peck their flesh for ruining Pakistan's and Islam's image world wide. :mad:
  7. Shaeireurdu

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    Hakomat aur lal masjid

    AOA.
    Dosto, humare mulk mein aaj kal ajab halaat hein, keh aik taraf hamre watane aziz ke istakaam ka sawaal hae aur dusri taraf humara din hae. mein bas yeh kehna chahta tha, keh beshak Mulana Abdul Rasheed Ghazi sahab ka zariya ghalat ho par sari nahin par kuch baten sahi hein. Mene Allah ke din ko pehchana hae aur jitna aur janon hansta hoon keh kitna kam janta tha. Islam Pakistan mein sahi tarahan se bataya nahin jata, maslan, mera naam "MULANA Muhamad Shahzaib Khan" hae, mere aik thread mein mjhe en alfaaz se nawaza giya Endurer ya AaDi bahi ki taraf se: "You Fuck". Mene in ka kiya bigara tha? Yeh misaal cheekh cheekh kar bolti hae, keh ham apne molayoon ko bura sire se hi lete hein. Lal masjid mein jo ho raha hae na hota agar ham un ko itni nafarat na dete...
    par Hakomat aur Lal masjid ka mamla un ka hae, hein sides lene se pehle yeh sochna chaiye keh kya hamko istakaam chaiye ya islam chaiye, jab keh Inqalaab (aik musalmaan jamhuriyat) mein haram hae (jab keh jihad halal hae).
  8. Quiet Whisper

    Quiet Whisper New Member

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    hmm well to be honest shaeire urdu.. people here.. real muslims even, they hate extremism.. aap kahin aur ja ke extremism phelayen :) idher nahin :)
  9. Endurer

    Endurer Senior Moderator

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    What gibberish shahzaib. Ajeeb insan ho aap, mujeh to ab shaq hota hai k shayed aap bhi laal masjid se hi taluk rakhte ho.
  10. Quiet Whisper

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    lol bro i think yeh recently wahin se bhaag ke aaye hain :D
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    hmmm sab se pehli baat.. aap ko maulana kis ne bana diya?? yeh khitaab kahan se mila?? secondly, lal masjid walon ko is liye sab bura nahin kehte ke woh apne aap ko maulana kehte hain.. is liye kehte hain ke woh ghalat hain.. literally ghalat.. i've spent my whole life in saudi arabia.. jo baqwas tum log karte ho idher.. woh wahan aaj tak kissi ne nahin ki hain.. infact.. saudi ministry of islamic affairs ke head tak ne aap ki lal masjid ke bewaqoof leaders ko ghatiya tareen insan kaha hai jo aurton aur larkiyon ke peeche chupta hai.. aayenda.. religion ke baare mein idher koi post nahin karna.. warna agar main shuroo hogaya.. to aik aik reference tumhare monh pe maaroonga.. and i'll make sure ke tum khud yeh dua karo ke tum jahanum mein ja ke giro seedha..
  12. Glamorous-Ladee

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    i don't like what's going on at all. I don't know what the government is thinkin by doin tht, and i dont know what us muslims have in store buh i the future is not lookin good for us :(
  13. Quiet Whisper

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    dont worry gl.. the problem lies with these make believe mullahs.. they claim that they preach islamic teachings, but what they really preach is their fundamentalist approach to life, and associating it with Islam.. They speak but they dont know matters correctly themselves.. i've spent my whole life in saudi arabia and MashaAllah se i've performed Umrah a lot of times.. my whole family is comprised of practicing muslims.. and i personally know how wrong most of the mullahs are in their preachings.. i have had enough exposure with religious matters in saudi arabia to know one thing for sure.. islam isnt what these fundamentalists claim it is.. :)
    dont worry.. about this lal masjid thing.. the government is doing the right thing.. as those people were using islam to try and gain power and push forward their personal agendas.. they are using women and children as human shields, and they even justify running away from that "battlefield" in a burqa by giving religious references.. now in my view, that guy just pleaded insanity in the religious world :)
  14. Endurer

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    Aaj news bohat kam dekhi menen so koi progress howe kiya is per? Menen sirf musharraf ka statement dekha tha k jisne bahir ana hai ajaye werna mara jaye ga.

    Government itni slow kyun hai react kerne mein? Hostages mere khiyal se andar rahe nahi honge ab, sirf wohi international terrorists honge. In logon ka to qatal-e-aam hona chahiye.

    Aur haan, aaj sunane mein aya tha k MMA/Jamat-e-Islami laal masjid walon ki side le rahe thi or unhien manzlom keh rahe thi. Ab inko bhi line mein khara kar k goli maar deni chahiye. Kese moka parast log hien.
  15. Miss_Sweet

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    mera to sar dard hone lag gaya hai...yeh 4 din se wohi lal masjid wali khabrein sun sun kar...mujhe samajh me nai ata ke yeh maulana sahib kya chahte hain:s apni jaan b khatre me daal rahe hain aur dosro ki bhi...

    islie to sab muslims ke baare mein bura bala kehte hain:s
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