!! Poem On Musharaf ChaCha !! Exclusive

[manni9]

now we should return to the topic.

[mytonse]

@ Rahen,

I was asked to repond.Eitherways the concerned person has been looping and hailing remarks and displaying indecency and the infractions have seemed to have no effect whatsoever.

I replied to the person who best seemed out of order.

[*Saira*]

Wah wah kya discussion chal raha hai...:ninjastar:
kero kero ji yeh healthy debate kerne se koi yahan nahin rokega!:cloud9:

[AaDi]

karachi- Shanghai sister city agreement to me this is a great opportunity for more jobs , roads in progress and healthy lifestyle. Wat do u all have to say about this agreement.

Totally agree to you on that Rahen .. mobile chay chay rakhne hain .. gari sab se nai chalani hai .. end pe aa ke baisti karne main bhi kasr nahi chorni ..

[RAHEN]

ji- i hve heard many changes going on in pakistan after musharraf took the seats...and this is one of the biggest project in hand for them...

ji mytonse..

[manni9]

Edited cauz i found my answer.

[khawab]

Oooohhh ! thanks Rahen aapi

chalo is forum pe koi to meri help karraha hai
but aapi jo maine endurer ko jawab diya tha woh to nahin mitana tha osmein koi bura to nahin tha

[Muzna]

Totally agree to you on that Rahen .. mobile chay chay rakhne hain .. gari sab se nai chalani hai .. end pe aa ke baisti karne main bhi kasr nahi chorni ..

gari sab say nai kiya ...har saal nayya model ghar may aata hai...aik ghar may 6 6 gaariyyaan haein...roads ki halat daikho to lagta hai k agar aglay kuch years tak yahee haal raha to jiss jagah 15 minutes may pohancha ja sakta hai wahaan 2 ghantay lagga karaein gay

[Quiet Whisper]

well i've been going thru this topic since it started .. possibly the first one to view it .. but never commented .. reason was .. i was juz disgusted ..

ma own personal views .. i dont want to offend anyone .. I really don't know the 'clear' layout but all I believe in is proof and figures .. Karachi stock exchange ka business ... pakistan economical growth .. establishment of mills and industries .. telecommunication boom .. all this is wat i saw since musharaf took over ..

someone talked about media and journalism .. to meri request aap se itni si hai .. woh time bhi aap ko yaad ho ga jab .. PTV hota tha sirf Pakistan main .. and yeh media ko independence daine walay he aap ke musharaf uncle hain ..

lawyers ki baat ki toh i think GEO her kisi ne deekha ho ga .. koi mujhe yeh bataye ga ke wahan pe lawyers main political leaders ka kya kaam tha ??? jab kisi issue ko politicise kya jaye .. toh i think people do cross their lines ..

and finally .. cartoons wala issue .. pakistani hone ka kitna acha saboot diya hai sab pe .. apne ke ghar ko aag lagay ke .. apne he behn bhaiyon ko takleef de ke hum kya prove karne niklay thay .. yahan pe goray hastay thay BBC deekh ke yeh kaun si pagal kaum hai .. apna he ghar tabah kar rahi hai ..

and kisi bhai ne baat ki paise se log jalsay main aa jatay hain .. n to be honest .. paisi ki kammi opposition ke paas bhi nahi .. and to be dead honest .. hamari awam ko sirf bahana chahiye kaam pe nah janay ka .. its hard n bitter to believe but i know .. dats how truth is ..

blaming one person is really easy .. but can you plz recall the last time any Government (PPP came twice and MQM as well) .. that did ANY good ?? oh while we're at it .. DT main he kisi ne post kya hai .. karachi main nazimabaad under pass .. another of ma friend from karachi told me .. panch under-pass bun chukay hain .. and i still remember PPP aik bridge nahi bana pai thi )

Rightly said bro, another thing I'd like to add here is that regardless of the inflation and other problems, is Karachi under development or not? I'm in Karachi right now is liye I'm talking about Karachi. It is under development and pretty heavily.. Jo ke aaj tak kissi government ne nahin kia.. i still still see a lot of development going on in karachi.. roads highways waghaira laakh darjah behter condition mein hain abhi.. this process takes time so dont expect ke kal parsoon tak sab roads to toote pare hain woh theek hojayenge.. this isnt uk or some middle eastern country we're talking about.. this is karachi and pakistan.. jahan jis ko dekho woh susti karta hai moqa milne pe..

^ it's the truth.

Jahan tak is government k pros hien wahan cons bhi hein. Lout maar inhon ney kam nahi ki.. KSE ko kia karien jab aam admi bhoka mar raha hai. Ajj economic survery nikla hai or 'inflation' 7%+ rise howe hai. Ab wohi ghee jo aik year pehle 47 rs/KG tha aaj 105/110 rs per KG mein mil raha hai. Yeh jo musharraf ki line hote thi k tv bik rahe hein, ac's bik rahe hein, ajj pata chala k woh so-called progress bhi khatam ho gaye.

Steel mill ka kia kiya inhon ney? PIA kahan hai aaj? Yeh jo WAPDA k crisis chal rahe hien inka zumedar kon hai? Government ki policies fail howe, or ab subhanAllah, aaj jo budget a raha hai usmein koi funds mukhtas hi nahi kiye gaye WAPDA k new projects k liye.

Media ko azadi di, I appreciate that. Per iska matlab yeh nahi k agay anay wali 100 naslien apni textbooks mein musharraf k lessons hi perhte rahien k usne yeh ehsan kia hum per. Ab aik taraf de ker usne ordinance bhi nikal diya k that's it, I can't take it anymore.

Yahan votes bhi bikte hien or log bhi, yeh tum bhi jante ho or mein bhi. 200 rs per logon ko apne jalson pe le ker jate hai government.

Yeh CJ case politicize kia nahi geya, it was meant to be. Opposition ka to kaam hi yeh hai k jahan koi kamzori nazar aye wahan dhawa bol dia, per kia tumhein nahi lagta k CJ ko suspend kerna ziadti thi? Agar ehtesab hi kerna hai to PM, CM, President ka bhi ho, akaile CJ ka hi kyun?

Past mein jo howa sab ney dekha, per ab jo ho raha hai woh bhi kam nahi hai. Yahan media, adalatien e.t.c. jab tak azad nahi hoten tab kese mein or tum safe hien? Kiya izzat hai aik aam Pakistani ki? Jo establishment k sath nahi hai usko ghar se utha kar ajeeb charges laga dete hien or jo sath hai, chahe woh kitna bhi jahil na ho (chauhdry brothers jinhien bolne ki tamez nahi, shaikh rasheed) woh hamare sir per betha hai.

Mujeh khushi hai k aaj thore aqal hai logon mein or apni awaz nikal rahe hein na insafion k khilaf. Bohat dair baad to yeh qoum jagi hai, ab keechar dhulne mein waqt lagey ga.

CJ ka is liye horaha hai coz he politicized his situation.. his refusal to go to court peacefully highlights his stance on this issue.. he made a mockery of the judicial system himself.. he took to the road and sided with the political parties in opposition just so he could get a chance to fill his pockets like his political counterparts.. frankly i know he's guilty.. choudhary brothers jab doosri aik party ke saath the.. tab kissi ne un pe ungli kyun nahin uthayii?? why werent these political figures questioned before?
and about abducting people and holding them with absurd charges, this is the fia and the police working without actual legal authority.. these guys cannot do this but they do..
about the prices rising.. and the inflation.. inflation ki main wajah logon ki greed hai.. they just want more profit.. is liye yeh sab karte hain.. inflation hai but that's because the people on the ground level, who actually control these things, who sell this stuff, they are maximising their profits.. they are monopolizing everything.. un ki wajah se har cheez ki prices itni high hain.. example.. i have to spend 80rs every day to get to my home which is in north nazimabad from gulshan e iqbal by riksha.. jab ke that route barely uses 50rs worth of petrol in my car.. and riksha's are running on cng..
ab government ke paas jitne paise honge.. they can only subsidize things that much.. if most of the population, specially the elite and entrepreneurs dont pay tax then how will the government actually get anything??
its not about the people in authority, its more about the system that is prevalent here.. that was implemented by people long before these characters came into power.. its our obligation, those of us who have some influence and who can do something to affect this system, to bring this change here.. jin ghareeb logon ki baat karte hain sab.. most of them dont work themselves.. bachon ko free schools mein bhejte nahin and instead make them work with them, aka child labor, ergo poverty keeps increasing..
and some people start begging instead of working coz its easier for them to earn something.. baat sirf pait bharne ki nahin hai.. throughout karachi, i see a lot of beggars and most of the people i see are pretty fit.. fit enough that they do look well fed and to work, yet if you ask them if they want to work, they just walk away..

aadi sirf ghee ki prices nahi increase nahi hoi ...iss dafa to 10% increase howa hai Food products pay...and yeah i totally agree with u adeel bhai...yah pakistan hai...yahaan ehtasaab tab hota hai jab aik govt challi jaati hai...aur next aati hai to tab pata chalta hai pichli govt k officials nay kitni properties bannai haein...n adeel bhai jitni bhi rallies nikalti hai uss k liyay 500 per head aur uss k ilawa uss k liyay khana bhi hota hai...n Aadi ab ki kiya baat kartay ho app...ab to jiss k barray may pata chal jaay k yah baat leak karnay walla banda hai uss k peechay intelligence laga do...ya uss banday ko he manzar say ghaib karwa doo

actually sis.. this isnt the case.. my friend's father is in the fia and kaafi high ranking official hain.. he knows when something's about to happen.. 12th may ka un tak ko nahin pata tha ke itna kuch hoga.. all he knew was ke cj aayega and kuch hungame honge.. magar not at the scale jis pe huey.. and about this thing ke rangers waghaira kyun nahin the? they could've been pulled away from all places such as this so CJ sahib yeh bahana na bana den ke authorities ne un ko tang kia and aisa kia n waisa kia.. plus.. us bande ko karachi aane ki zaroorat hi nahin thi kuch bhi.. this was all their work just so they (CJ n his political cronies) could create this mess.. did you guys think about it like this?
and inflation ki baat pe i've already commented on it when i quoted adeel..

choro yar...aj tu sara din bekar gaya ...
Sara dinn Light off thi...aj budget bhi tu lagna tha
abhi woh b sahi tarhan se nahi dekha gaya...
Musharaf kehta hai hamare pass itna paisa hai tu woh usay
use kyun nahi ker raha hai...Electricity k liye...itni dhoop hoti hai PAK mein
ise use kare koye solar energy se light produce kare...per paisa pata nahi kahan
ja raha hai...awam waise hi mar rahi hai...Pehly PTV hota tha woh jo dikhata tha log man jate they...kyun k woh Govt ka channel tha...Private Channels se hi pata chal raha hai k kiya ker rahe hein hamare hukrmran...isiliye ab awam jag rahi hai or insaaf k liye bol rahi hai...abhi news mein mein ne dekha karachi mein load shading k khilaf strike howi or police ne un per lathi charge kiya...media per alehda se charge ho raha hai...
but hum ab apne apko yun pisne nahi deinge..."bol k lab azad hein tere..."

ab once again.. moments yaar.. its not just about the government.. maana ke garmi hai and kesc is not working correctly but at the same time, we arent conserving electricity here either.. and is load shedding ke peeche aik ulterior motive hai.. woh yeh ke these guys want to make that dam but quite a few politicians are opposing it.. all this is being done to make them say yes.. rahi media ki baat.. if u'r given freedom, u should look at it like a responsibility.. n u should never abuse u'r authority or freedom.. media kabhi kabhi kar deti hai aisa.. jis ki wajah se the govt did what it did.. and later on kuch ziyada hi shuroo kardiya govt ne.. could be bad analysts n advisors or could be a bad choice by musharraf himself.. but still the media needs to be a bit more responsible about its freedom.. it isnt
n rahi logon ki baat.. to the thing is, pakistan mein akser log media ke point of view pe apne aap ko restrict karte hain.. overseas pakistani's have one plus point here.. they dont rely solely on the media.. they look for other sources, online sources.. kabhi theek baat milti hai.. kabhi theek nahin hoti.. but most of us overseas pakistanis do have family here in pakistan and we do get regular updates from the ground level.. personally jo kuch main ne idher pichle 4 saalon mein dekha hai.. us ke hisaab se.. musharraf is still a hundred times better than any other politician here

[moments]

karachi- Shanghai sister city agreement[/B] to me this is a great opportunity for more jobs , roads in progress and healthy lifestyle. Wat do u all have to say about this agreement.

...Karachi mein jo Mobile Snatching ho rahi hai...us k bare mein b maloom hoga apko...chori k mobile...motorcycle car sab milta hai...wahan ager ap bahir khare fone per baat ker rahe ho tu foran mobile cheena jayee ga..
karachi k halat bhut kharab hein...

ab once again.. moments yaar.. its not just about the government.. maana ke garmi hai and kesc is not working correctly but at the same time, we arent conserving electricity here either.. and is load shedding ke peeche aik ulterior motive hai.. woh yeh ke these guys want to make that dam but quite a few politicians are opposing it.. all this is being done to make them say yes.. rahi media ki baat.. if u'r given freedom, u should look at it like a responsibility.. n u should never abuse u'r authority or freedom.. media kabhi kabhi kar deti hai aisa.. jis ki wajah se the govt did what it did.. and later on kuch ziyada hi shuroo kardiya govt ne.. could be bad analysts n advisors or could be a bad choice by musharraf himself.. but still the media needs to be a bit more responsible about its freedom.. it isnt
n rahi logon ki baat.. to the thing is, pakistan mein akser log media ke point of view pe apne aap ko restrict karte hain.. overseas pakistani's have one plus point here.. they dont rely solely on the media.. they look for other sources, online sources.. kabhi theek baat milti hai.. kabhi theek nahin hoti.. but most of us overseas pakistanis do have family here in pakistan and we do get regular updates from the ground level.. personally jo kuch main ne idher pichle 4 saalon mein dekha hai.. us ke hisaab se.. musharraf is still a hundred times better than any other politician here

bro bro bro!
i know media apni azadi ka kuch najayaz faida b utha rahi hai...
kuch cheezen aisi b hoti hai jo nahi dikhani chahiye...
per jab awam ko pata hi nahi chale ga k un k saath kiya kya ja raha hai...
tu wo jage gi kaise...hamesha her hukrmran hamein khata raha...
Musharaf ne itne bure kaam nahi kye...per hum ab hamesha ki tarhan khud ko piste howe nahi dekhna chahte...ap log dekhte ho...k womens ko haqooq mil rahe hein...dosre countries k realtions ache ho rahe hein..Pakistan become atomic power...yeh ho raha hai woh horaha hai...europ ki naqal ki ja rahi hai..per ager pak ko europ jaisa banana hai tu jo roads toti hein woh kyun nahi sahi hoti...jo jagha jagha tora hai...us ka hal kiya hai...jo berozgari hai us ka kiya...paisa udher kyun nahi lag raha in fazool cheezon per kyun...ab ager log samjhna shro howe hein or apni awaz bland kerte hein tu us mein harj hi kiya hai...

Musharaf tu yeh darr b hai k ager wo wardi utare ga tu simple citizen ban jaye ga or army se relation toot jayee ga...or us ki sarkar dhoob jaye gi..
hamein bas army se chir hogayee hai...sara paisa army per lag raha hai...
jo b officer retired hota hai usay bangla or bari se pension or car milti hai...
or wo sari life beth ker aish kerta hai...or bechara gareeb admi wahin k wahin betha hai...WE WANT CHANGE !!